No Stupid Questions

Nope.

If Trump can get alway with almost all of his bullshit, if the Supreme Court can just hurr durr away a hundred + years of legal precedent, then this whole system is bullshit.

Anybody that is charge of or oversees the systemic application of violence toward great numbers of people, who is legally allowed to do so, in a system where the common person has 0 chance of ever altering this system to police itself and actually enact justice by preventing said person from doing that and prosecuting them for their crimes against the people...

Anyone in such a position should be afraid, should keep suffering consequences until theyfinally figure out that they need to acquiesce to a reformation of the system, need to stop fucking over millions for the grotesque enrichment of thousands.

When the game is rigged against you, play by your own rules, otherwise you guarantee your own defeat.

yes, of course. and found not guilty, to send a message.

No. I hope he's never found. I hope it destroys the careers of all the cops and politicians blowing shitloads of resources looking for him while they barely look at crimes against normal people. I hope all these insurance executives wake up in a cold sweat every night worrying that they'll be next. That's what's best for the world.

Yes, I do.

I want the state to make it crystal clear that this guy was the shooter. That he did it. That he had no legal justification to do it. That his actions were undeniably criminal, and that his crime was clearly premeditated.

And then I want a jury of his peers to return a "not guilty" verdict, and every scumbag business executive across the country suddenly deciding to take an early retirement.

His jury can't return that not guilty verdict if he isn't prosecuted.

I want the executives, boards, and shareholders that effectively murder millions every year to be prosecuted.

Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted?

Nope. Killing a billionaire parasite doesn't make one a murderer - it merely makes one a credit to the human race.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial

Not really.

No, because I don't see any point to it. If they manage to catch him, they may as well just kill him on the spot when they get him, as I have no faith that his trial would be anything more than a farce to try and present some sense of following process and norms, while guaranteeing he gets some insane sentence, only to be found mysteriously to have hung himself. I'm sure that, somehow, a jury of his peers will be comprised solely of the 12 most ghoulish residents of NYC one could find, and they'll probably try to shop around for the worst judge they can to hear the whole thing.

ITT: Nobody understands the difference between being prosecuted and convicted.

He should absolutely be prosecuted, he murdered someone. Should he be convicted of this murder? Fuck no, and I actually think a jury might agree with me.

If he gets caught, then I'd say yes. Murder should be treated as murder regardless of what the reason is. Making exceptions is never a good idea.

I just hope he doesn't get caught.

Jury selection question to weed out biased jurors: "Have you ever had a claim that was unfairly denied?"

Weeks later: "We have been unable to find enough jurors to try the case."

Hear me out before you rage:

In theory? I believe that killings warrant investigation, prosecution and trial, no matter their intention, though the intention should factor into the result of the process. I want him to be prosecuted with the same intensity as any other killing would be, and if found, given a fair trial, convicted for whatever charge applies, as would be proper for a functioning judicial system. But then I'd want to see him pardoned as political expression of his popular support (and the fact that his victim was part of a deeply inhuman complex of exploitation).

In practice? I hope they never find him. Appropriate intensity of investigation? Orderly arrest? Fair treatment as prisoner? Fair trial? Fair charges? Fair conviction? Fat chance. Pardoned? Not even a chance.

I want him to go without punishment more than I want to hope for a fair process, and I couldn't believe in the latter in any case.

No. If murdering cops can get away with it, so should someone who killed a guy who has indirectly killed millions through the racket that is health insurance.

You gotta weigh the decision, on one hand he shot and killed one person, on the other hand the dude he killed was allowing sick people to die unnecessary deaths so he could get his bonus.

So it's a big old fat no from me, that's a greater good scenario.

Maybe get a fine for .0005% of their net worth. You know, so they don’t do it again.

That’s how it works, right?

Absofuckinglutely not. I want him to never be found and continue to off health insurance CEOs one by one until we get universal healthcare like the rest of the developed world. And after he’s through with them there’s a whole list of other rich assholes that the world would be better off without, starting with the defense contractors.

This is a good question from the wrong angle. This event is cathartic for many people because the ultra rich who ruin countless lives never get punished. When they see “consequences” it’s a golden parachute. This event is frustrating because the media, legal, and security apparatuses expect us to treat this assassination as a grave act, but actively normalize the acts of harm Thompson and other leaders like him commit every day.

This event is revealing in stark terms the divide between the elite and the average person. Should murderers be prosecuted? Sure - in a world where justice and the rule of law matter for everyone equally. Doesn’t feel like we live in that world.

Yes, of course he must be prosecuted if he can be found. As a member of the general population I feel as though it's possible that a jury wouldn't convict him and could even find him not guilty. Then he is a free man.

Until his identity is known I shall call him Attaboy Goodman, and if a jury were to convene with me on it, I would be unlikely to take seriously any claim by the state that this vigilantism is somehow more destructive of public order than police murdering and robbing people while ignoring wage theft and corporate crimes.

Yes, hell yes.

Get this man in a court room. Let the prosecutors spend weeks trying to find a jury where no one (or any of their relatives and friends) has been fucked over for life because of shitty insurance.

Let them talk about how unstoppable, determined, and committed the defendant was.

And then have the jury nullify the case.

It would be a good day to be alive.

I want to reward him.

I've never subscribed to anyone's patreon ever before but I would sub to his.

Jury nullification would be nice.

Do you want to see the people who killed Osama Bin Laden prosecuted?
Because the United Heath CEO killed far more people, including many more children, than Bin Laden did on 9/11.

What murderer? He fell on lead because he was high on prescription drugs.

For the social agreement society has, it's irrelevant if you think this person is a hero or a villain, they need to be tried by a jury of their peers in a court of law.

If they are not, then the social agreement that we don't go around murdering people, no matter the intent changes and life becomes very difficult.

Theoretically: no.

In practice, in the world we're living in? Hell no.

Any attempt to prosecute the killer would simply add to the advantage the ruling class already have, and be basically an injustice by definition no matter how "by the book" could it have been approached in the otherwise wondrful and illusory world of theory.

🎵🎶 jury nullification 🎵🎶

If he's caught we should elect him president so he doesn't have to go to jail.

Lol Lmao Fuck no. Every day he's not found is another day that the United States is in a better position

How do we get him to do it again?

What murderer? There's an alleged person who allegedly may or may not have allegedly done something that allegedly resulted in the alleged death of that CEO. Allegedly.

Unfortunately this is America, and as members of Congress have publicly stated, there's just nothing we can do about domestic gun violence. So even if an alleged person allegedly committed an alleged crime with a firearm, the system's hands are tied.

Oh well. Anyway I'm gonna go eat some cake, since it's all I have.

Why is violence legal when the government does it but not for regular people who have exhausted their peaceful options? Escalation of force gets justified all the time for cops and waging wars.

No.

No, I think he should escape into myth. I hope that he had a planned exit strategy for the end of this, and that he manages to flee the U.S. If he is caught, I believe he will be made an example, a metaphorical head on a pike to scare people off.

I'd like the CEO prosecuted post-mortem, and any charges transmitted equally to any and all other policy-makers at UHC.

Nah he was defending himself against highway robbery.

I would buy him a coffee

I hope they never get the chance

Sometimes people provide a public service to humanity is very dark ways. Do not turn this guy in.

Yes. I want the story of how United screwed them and their loves ones. I want thousands of families screwed by United to go as witness and tell their stories.

And hopefully the jury will find any evidence inconclusive.

no.

I don't even care about his motives.

only reason why, that CEO jackass never allowed thousands if not millions of his customers to defend their right to care. the system he built, maintained, and expanded denied people their justice.

for that reason, and that reason alone, he and his family should have their justice denied.

If I was on the jury it would be a not guilty from me