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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Seriously, all this crazyness with the US election has given me newfound sympathy for the people of Russia.

Americans literally have every respectable news source available to them, and they still get brainwashed by these buffoons because they only get their news from facebook, tiktok, fox news, and shit. They choose to be ignorant.

The Russian people at least have the excuse that they're literally living under a dictator and are fed bullshit everywhere they look. They have to actively and at the risk of their security seek out valid sources for what's actually happening.

Imagine if every news channel in the US was just Fox News. I guess we might not have to imagine it for much longer...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Americans literally have every respectable news source available to them, and they still get brainwashed by these buffoons

The "respectable news sources" have been fully co-opted by buffoons for decades.

The NYT lied us into Iraq while fearmomgering against Mexico. The WSJ gulled us into the Housing Crisis and Crypto scams. The WaPo praised Victor Orban and Ahmed Chalabi and Bong Bong Marcos long past their obvious expiration dates. The Economist cheered on everyone from Francisco Franco to Javier Milei.

And now that Trump is once again in the driver's seat, the mass media response is to simultaneously downplay the coming horror and denounce LGBT and Latinos for his win.

Imagine if every news channel in the US was just Fox News

Compare FOX News in 1996 to MSNBC in in 2024. Rachael Maddow of yesteryear would be fucking horrified at what she's saying today.

[–] actually 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And the smaller press were bought out or folded, because apparently people don’t read their news on paper anymore, which is sad.

That’s ok though because people can directly tweet live happenings… oh wait

So anyway, the large social medias are crippled one way or another; and there are few paid journalists outside the influence of the top 10 news corps in the USA

It’s a bad time to have an information blackout, or one controlled by a very few

[–] MutilationWave 5 points 1 week ago

That's one of the reasons I'm here.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the smaller press were bought out or folded, because apparently people don’t read their news on paper anymore

Bought out or folded because they lost ad support from major business groups whenever they failed to kowtow to the company line.

The remaining US media institutions are all either utterly subservient to or entirely owned by corporate boards and billionaires.

[–] actually 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, I am beginning to understand the takeover of media was more insidious. I knew about the market forces but I did not realize much how the different monopolies worked together, both in practice and accidentally, to squish the survivors, who were struggling but could have recovered.

[–] CharlesDarwin 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The “respectable news sources” have been fully co-opted by buffoons for decades.

Yep. It's probably not as cartoonishly ridiculous as things might be under Putin, but given the capitalist framing all of them are in, they don't have to be that ridiculous.

It all goes back to Chomsky - set up an extremely narrow range of permitted opinions, and "allow" vigorous debate, only in that range and marginalize anything outside that range. Rinse, repeat.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 1 week ago

It’s probably not as cartoonishly ridiculous as things might be under Putin

It's the same guys in both brackets. Steven Bannon made repeated trips to Eastern Europe to assist in shaping the media of Russia and its allies during Trump's first term. And he was hardly the only one. American aid to "friendly" Russian officials goes back to Yeltsin in the early 90s and the flood of Western press behind the Iron Curtain following its collapse.

"Russia would have done it worse" is just Western Whataboutism. It's literally the same slop coming from the same cartel of white nationalists collaborating across Continental Europe and the US. From Elon's Twitter to Murdoch's NewsCorp to RT guest hosting Tucker Carlson. The exact same guys.

It all goes back to Chomsky - set up an extremely narrow range of permitted opinions, and “allow” vigorous debate, only in that range and marginalize anything outside that range. Rinse, repeat.

I miss Young Chomsky. The man was clear eyed and sharp as a knife.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 16 points 1 week ago

Well hopefully these two fine old gents will remain happy and healthy to a ripe old age. I certainly hope nothing terrible and swift befalls them. Yep.

[–] Noite_Etion 16 points 1 week ago

How do you think Trump won, why did he didn't get committed for his crimes and how he got his following? We are already in the age of disinformation and the fact this article claims its just begging shows how bad it actually is.

[–] MushuChupacabra 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy 2 points 1 week ago

5 years from now 10 million civilians have been executed by the MAGA death squads.

MSM: "we might be close to entering a time where mass murder could happen at some point in the distant future"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The funny thing about their silly little agenda is that it just straight up doesn't work if we all ignore them, which begs the question WHY THE FUCK IS ANYBODY GIVING THESE GREEDY CUNTS THE LIGHT OF DAY!? Stop using their shitty platforms, stop talking about them like they are special, stop giving them a pedestal to stand on. Let them shrivel and die in agonizing anonymity like the narcistic parasites that they are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I completely agree. Just look at the frontpage of Lemmy and the "big" social media instances, they are dominated by things we hate. Yet we are forced to endlessly discuss and react to the stream of BS instead of taking action.

[–] MrPoopbutt 0 points 1 week ago

And what action do you suggest?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought I was being paranoid but this might've started at my company. Every now and then my company has these team meetings that talk about our orgs purpose and mission. That's pretty par the course for my company since it's military centric and we're supposed to have a connection to our customer base. The most recent meeting, a couple weeks after the election, just felt off. It had almost nothing to do with our business and seemed like it was just hero worship and idolizing military life. It would've fit much better in a high school recruitment session.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly what started at your company?

Bots? Billionaires manipulating social media?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think they mean like, a certain attitude/work culture has begun to rapidly form, not the title stuffs

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 1 week ago

Ah, gotcha.