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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)

On the one hand, Carlson being against it makes me assume that it's probably a good thing, but on the other I'm usually pretty against the use of landmines because they have a strong tendency to sit around for a long time and maim random civilians.

But if he said the sky was blue I'd have to go check for myself.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The landmines that Biden approved are battery powered. While they are still indiscriminate killing machines, they will self-neutralize rather than remain dangerous for decades to come.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

This. U do still have to worry about what the error rate is considering the vast number that will be deployed.

[–] cogman 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yup.

I think Biden is wrong for the reasons you lay out. It won't just be the Russians that suffer from mining.

WWII ordinances still get pulled up pretty regularly in France.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

World War II ordinances didn't rely on batteries and so remain(ed) dangerous for far longer.

[–] Flightbird386 0 points 1 month ago
[–] cogman -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

These are still explosive. While the triggering mechanism may go bad after the battery dies, are the explosive chemicals neutralized? What happens on a shock to the device? For example, if it's crushed by a vehicle or hit by a plow blade?

I can grant that these are probably safer than yesteryear's model, but I also think you are still setting up bobbytraps that are potentially dangerous for decades.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most explosives are chemically and physically stable like c4. Driving over them isn't going to set them off, nor is hitting them with any kind of blunt force.

[–] BombOmOm 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hell, you can even burn C4 and it does not explode.

[–] WhatYouNeed 2 points 1 month ago

Interesting concept for a BBQ - C4 instead of charcoal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Do some research and get back to us.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean they're being invaded, and by Russia out of all countries. Just like their use of cluster ammunition, they probably decided it's worth the risk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Well, some of them did. Conscription is active in Ukraine which means there’s a lot of people involved against their will.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, sure, because the technology is exactly the same now as it was 80 years ago.

[–] edgemaster72 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't step on Ukrainian land if you don't want to deal with Ukrainian land mines?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good thing land mines can distinguish between Ukrainians and Russians I guess?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They have an expiration date. Not purly for lobg term safety reasons but it also allows for more advanced tactical use cases.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do they have fixed expiry after which the thing is inert, or just a battery that runs down after which a different energy source (or shock to the battery) is needed to trigger them?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They have en expiry after which they explode i believe.

[–] cogman -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And a child years after the war ends.

Landmines were internationally banned for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Iirc, these have an expiration date

Not that it fully absolves them, but better than the ones that go boom 30 years after the fact

[–] CharlesDarwin 52 points 1 month ago

There is a simple solution - Tucker's pal Putin could GTFO of Ukraine. How about that?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Killing is the point" yeah thats what happens in war.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Russians can easily avoid getting blown up by them just by staying in their country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dont the rhe Russian soldiers themselves can. But their superiors certainly can

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Fragging is an option.

[–] hperrin 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Killing is the point of land mines? Wow, Tucker must be a genius.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

If the Russians stay in Russia, they'll be at no risk.

[–] foggy 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come on and SLAM

If you wanna JAM

[–] AdamEatsAss 6 points 1 month ago

Tucker Carlson throws Biden off of hell in the cell and 16 feet into the announcer table for supplying land mines.

[–] Zachariah 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] gnomesaiyan 11 points 1 month ago

So fucking tired of this headline eye-grabber.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Oh no he didn't!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago