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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo 2 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if Tankies unironically liked Democrats better when they were the KKK.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

GIven that I've had Tankies try to tell me the fight for LGBT rights isn't worth it because it's a "distraction" and "actually racist to force other cultures to conform to Western Values"

Yeah...

[–] JokklMaster 18 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks to idiot non voters there will not be a chance to dump these policies since there wont be another election

[–] Shardikprime -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Man, you really need to touch grass. 4 years will pass, another election will be held, and you will be just wasting time dwelling into that thought.

Better prepare for the future

[–] aesthelete 2 points 38 minutes ago

Honestly regardless of whether or not orange Lucifer tries to cling to power post-2028, it benefits everyone involved to just assume that he won't and prepare accordingly.

[–] BigBenis 48 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Democrats: "Understood. We must try harder to win over the center-right."

[–] TropicalDingdong 10 points 4 hours ago

"center right":

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, we should have seen it coming with all the "nostalgia" for the Good Old Days of GWB.

[–] aesthelete 3 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

And here I am nostalgic for the good ol days of Obama.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

I do miss when my tax dollars got spent to keep American corporate greed from crashing the global economy, again, and merely continuing the neo-Crusades instead of escalating them.

That was a nice almost decade.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 8 points 4 hours ago

This was literally what the Harris campaign walked away saying.

[–] takeda 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This is BS. People saying Kamala was too liberal, or too centrist, she was riding too much on Biden achievements or not enough etc etc.

The real reason for this is that majority of people no longer get their news from MSM, they get their news from social media which are hevily slanted for trump. Not only GOP understands how influential those are, but they are helped with foreign entities who are free to use these media as well.

This also isn't just happening to US but also to Europe.

The fucking solution is to get your family off of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok etc. it is a cancer and essentially hacks their brain.

You might think that social media is great, because everyone can have a voice. This might be true for sites like Lemmy, but in other places what you post is irrelevant, because their algorithm controls what others see. It is very clever, because they can hide behind freedom of speech to not restrict the sites, while essentially still having full control of what it is shown and zero consequences.

With AI they don't even need people anymore they can generate content themselves and say it is a real user.

Why do you think companies involved in social media are also heavily invested with generative AI?

[–] Yawweee877h444 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

The fucking solution is to get your family off of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok etc. it is a cancer and essentially hacks their brain.

What you're implying here is that people aren't smart enough to navigate social media intelligently, without being duped by propaganda and group think, yet you are.

Protecting dumb people by hiding them from social media, is a bad fix for a symptom of other major problems. Fixing symptoms like this is never a good solution.

What we need is education massively overhauled, to the point it would be unrecognizable to what we have today. People should have the critical thinking skills and educational background to laugh there ass off and shrug off ~~right wing~~ propaganda, and never let it take hold.

This is a much bigger problem, and we're losing significantly, but it's what should be discussed instead of just hiding social media from people.

[–] takeda 4 points 4 hours ago

The social media sites are known to collect vast information about us. The explanation is that it is meant for targeted ads, but the same information can be also used to know which buttons to press.

You scroll between funny videos and once in a while you get something that maybe will anger you, or maybe scare and in any way impact what you will do.

Just taking a recent example. To pro Palestinian people they received messages that Harris is bad for Palestine and we can show her and protest by not voting.

Meanwhile the same social media was telling pro Israeli people that they should not vote for Harris, because she is pro Palestine.

This is how they are getting desired outcome. And unlike MSM they can fine tune the message to specific category of people.

[–] mdurell 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

”and shrug off ~~right wing~~ propaganda" FTFY

[–] Yawweee877h444 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah fair enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Section 230 protection also needs to be removed. Let civil cases take care of misinformation and such. Currently content aggregators take no liability in what they choose to show in the their feed. Between sorting chronologically and machine learning, there is a line to be drawn.

[–] takeda 0 points 56 minutes ago

I was initially strongly in defense of it, but it now benefits corporations and almost no private users (as it originally was intended). So removing it probably would be a net benefit. Or maybe make it only applicable to private people and non profit.

[–] Freefall 15 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The message to Democrats is clear: (insert your agenda here)

Boring

[–] DeadWorldWalking 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You're right, what about all those educated working class liberals who want to willingly vote against their own self interests?

The Democrats need to work harder to attract those people

[–] LittleBorat3 9 points 6 hours ago

Based on the assumption that it was some economic issue, that lost them the votes, this article is pretty good.

[–] WoodScientist 12 points 11 hours ago

It goes beyond just that. I think a Democratic presidential candidate could do well addressing elitist thinking in general. I think they could do quite well with a pledge not to appoint anyone to their cabinet or to a court that graduated from an Ivy League school. One of the reasons we keep seeing the same shitty approaches is that both parties recruit heavily from the same handful of schools. This they're recruited from the same social circles. I would suggest that candidates just flat out state that they'll be filling all their major spots with people who got their education at state schools.

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