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[–] WoodScientist 8 points 1 hour ago

The self-driving taxis and humanoid robots companies like Tesla are developing are just a thinly disguised way of getting around immigration law. We're a very long way away from having autonomous humanoid robots that can clean your house for you. But one remotely piloted by someone in Bangladesh wearing a haptic suit? If the tech was cheap enough, that sort of thing would be profitable.

It's effectively an extremely perverse and exploitive form of immigration. When we bring immigrants in, they typically take low-level jobs. But they also get opportunities to advance themselves further. Moreover, in the US at least, any children immigrants have on US soil automatically become US citizens. So yes, immigrants come in on the bottom of the social ladder, but they have an opportunity to climb.

Here though? This is a way of getting all the labor we want from immigrants but without offering them the usual deal in return. And even worse, they won't even be owed minimum wage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

is planning to hire a human team to remotely troubleshoot its robotaxi operations.

Ok so they're not remotely driving, as the title would have you believe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So does he now want people working from home or not?

He's very inconsistent.

[–] Sweetpeaches69 9 points 1 hour ago

Oh, don't mistake. They'll still have to go into an office, they'll just be driving the cars remotely, most likely.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago

"How was your day, honey ?"

"I killed thirty people in a pile-up on Hwy74 remotely. I'll be a little late."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

Should be totally shut down until self diving is perfected. Shouldn't even be allowed the chance to lie about it.

Also they should get taxed into the ground. Like $5,000 Bill for signing a new customer up, and $60k every time the service is used. Daddy Warbucks can afford it and he be fixing the economy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago

I'm in, with generations of GTA experience

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

Basically what the self driving food delivery robots do in Berkeley, then

They are pretty autonomous, but if they get stuck then someone in Colombia takes control

[–] Badeendje 1 points 1 hour ago

So can I also start remote driving my car?

[–] pjwestin 84 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (4 children)

Ah yes, you know what's better than a taxi driver? A taxi driver who relies on a camera with a limited field of vision, experiences input and video lag, and receives none of the tactile sensations that allow drivers to gauge road conditions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

It's a good thing that's not what's happening, but I guess that doesn't help the "Musk Bad" agenda

is planning to hire a human team to remotely troubleshoot its robotaxi operations.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

also one that has no personal stake in the safety of their driving

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah, but you're ignoring one thing. I don't have to sit awkwardly hoping the driver doesn't talk to me. The risk/reward here might be screwed but I live dangerously.

Plus I welcome the opportunity to sue/fuck-over elon.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This really just comes down to people in a certain income brackets are uncomfortable being in close contact with a working class person.

That's why they don't like trains, that's why they don't like taxis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I just love we have this nice simple solution to fix traffic congestion and its been around for so long. It even hurts when people say "im forced to take public transit" like really? Owning a car is not a right. I personally do not get the hate for public transportation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My father when he visits the city to see me refuses to use the subway, even though it's a five minute ride from where he parks his car - he ubers instead. It's because he is frightened being trapped in a box with the poors.

When i got into work, coworkers asked me how i got in and i said Subway, they joked about having to avoid getting stabbed.

My friends are voting conservative in the upcoming election because they've seen too many poor people on the street engaging in anti-social behaviour (being drunk, and talking loud)

It's fucking insanity to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

mindblowing that people think you just get stabbed all the time on the subway. I live in Toronto and have taken buses, trains, streetcars, the SRT and the subway. The only complaint i have had is that I wish there was more funding for public transit to improve service. I have seen drunks and homeless people on the subway/bus/streetcar before, but never have had a problem. What people SHOULD be making an issue about is how these people end up in this situations, and how we can help them, and also be proactive and avoid it from happening in the future to more people.

[–] Duamerthrax 15 points 4 hours ago

People who don't drive themselves will be responsible for the UI of all this.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 19 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Just subreptitiously sell it as a video game, you won't even have to pay the drivers. I don't see what could go wrong with this plan.

[–] bitchkat 2 points 1 hour ago

Leon just announced he's starting an AI based gaming studio.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago
[–] Omgpwnies 2 points 3 hours ago

With how popular trucking sims are... I don't think you're entirely off the mark

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] InnerScientist 20 points 6 hours ago

And to quote the comic:

"Crowdsourced steering" doesn't sound quite as appealing as "self driving."

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[–] rational_lib 3 points 4 hours ago

On the one hand, this means they may be serious about actually trying to make this work. On the other hand, it'll almost certainly require a subscription to use the robotaxi in fully autonomous mode because that'll be an ongoing liability for Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

3 weeks later:

"Your honour, it was the ping!"

[–] pdxfed 9 points 4 hours ago

Prosecution calls first witness; my teenage neighbor nemesis, his 28.8k baud modem, and Warcraft2

[–] 2pt_perversion 37 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Waymo is doing the same. Mostly self-driving but when they get stuck a human at a help center takes the sticks. There are a lot of edge cases in the real world so it makes sense to just have the car programmed to be very conservative and let a human deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago

My concern is that some driving situations need to be resolved immediately. That handover could be an issue.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

Hey more jobs for taxi drivers and safer to do from the comfort of your home. Just like a drone pilot!

Who would have thought that Taxi drivers one day would be able to work from home?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago

Nah, they'll still have to come into the office 3-4 days a week for "collaboration" and "cross-team building". But they can do their drone whatsyhootzit from their cramped cubicles!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm happy that the number of blow-jobs-while-working will increase for this sector

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Lots of taxi drivers are already reckless. Imagine if they can drive remotely!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They'll be driving multiple cars at the same time, while drunk.

[–] Grimy 8 points 4 hours ago

Can't wait for the first 8 year old to be on trial for manslaughter because his dad had to go to the bathroom but didn't want to lose his fare.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

“Remotely control”, or “drive” if you will.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Only with worse vision, worse reflexes and probably worse pay

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago

Worse pay and worse working conditions is the killer app of “tech” these days.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 hours ago

And without survival instinct or adrenaline to distract during decisions, great!

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