Ego death might benefit a few of these people
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I know one guy who went through this. He was one of the most insufferable, alpha-male, Tate/Rogan macho men, he-man woman hater... I knew of not one person that liked him, only a few could even tolerate him.
He suffered... suffered might be the wrong word, experienced an ego death on shrooms. I won't say I liked him but he became calmer, he became someone you could talk to. He became someone others CHOSE to socialize with, they invited him out.
The transformation in this guy's personality was amazing. I don't know that his social or political views changed, but he absolutely did.
It kinda lets you know your place in the universe, but not in a debasing sort of way, it also helps you appreciate that place, as it is your place and belongs to you.
Psychedelics are fun, and introspective... if the person is.
Fr lol. Everyone should safely try a heavy psilocybin dose at least once. (Unless you have a genetic history of schizophrenia)
I think that if you get a position in Congress / the White House / the Supreme Court you should be required to pick from a menu of ego-shattering experiences before you take office. Psychedelics are on the list, but there can be other options in case drugs are no good for you. Things like extended fasting, a round in a sensory deprivation tank, a trip to orbit, being present for an organ donor having their organs removed... I'm sure we could come up with a list of drug-free experiences that would be transformative and drive home that you aren't the center of the universe.
a trip to orbit
"You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.'"
I think people might overstate how much the Overview Effect would help.
John Glenn's time in congress had him oppose nuclear proliferation, fix safety and environmental problems at nuclear weapon storage facilities, and to clean up nuclear waste. He also supported the B-1 bomber program, was wrapped up in the Keating Five corruption scandal, voted against gun locks for transferring pistols, and voted against a underage tobacco usage amendment. He generally supported every defense department budget bill.
Bill Nelson voted for the Patriot Act--just like everyone else in the Senate except Feingold--and also voted against a mandate for a 2007 complete withdrawal from Iraq.
It's all a mixed bag, at best. It's not going to magically transform our political system.
I just like the idea of dragging politicians a quarter million miles into the vacuum of space
I've known raving fascist assholes who also took psychedelics. They're not a panacea, however much you might like to imagine they are.
Thats what throwing them in the woods alone for a month is for, fucken rends you down. Im not even talking a survival situation just no internet, radio, or tv, books are allowed but cant be anything that is explicitly propaganda Heinlein is allowed though just not Starship Troopers.
Not everyone comes out of that shifting to a less authoritarian position. For most people, it does seem to do that, but not all. Psychedelics are common among white supremacists, and it tends to make them even more authoritarian.
https://www.liberalcurrents.com/psychedelics-and-the-far-right-the-psychnautzi-effect/
Maybe they will be so gorked out of their minds that they'll fail to implement anything in Project2025
I suspect they're not trying to do a good thing--what they're doing is likely making psychedelics as easy to access as possible, get everyone doing them, have that (obviously) go poorly, and then say "See? Nixon was right, minorities bad.”
RFK spoke positively of psychedelics in the same sentence as raw milk, so I think we're about to see decades of progress reversed.
The raw milk thing is so dumb. I somehow stumbled upon it on Tiktok and most of them heat the milk up before consuming it lol... do they not know what pasteurization is?
They're probably doing it wrong: not long enough, not high enough temperature, lack of other basic sanitary protections.
Also, TikTok is cancer.
TikTok content creator and "knowing" are like oil and water. Mixing requires soap. I don't know what soap is.
Is there any evidence of this? Not saying I disagree (and honestly wouldn’t be too surprised if this were the case), but just because it’s the “other team” that’s making the claim doesn’t necessarily equate to automatically being “bad”.
We gotta take statements, evidence, and arguments at face value. I have no idea what their intentions are or what the actual plan is (since it’s almost impossible to find any consistency within the GOP), but opening up psychedelics, in a controlled manner, could do wonders for society.
but just because it’s the “other team” that’s making the claim doesn’t necessarily equate to automatically being “bad”.
They're fascists, it absolutely means that, we cannot give them a micro inch of trust or benefit of the doubt
Who's ready for MKUltra part 2?? :DDDDD
I volunteer.
Best case, I get to see the beauty of existence and get a Wikipedia page.
Worst case, I finally snap and die after shooting myself in the back of the head twice.
That's the beauty of MkUltra. You don't get to volunteer. You'll find out decades later why you had an incredibly weird day of freaking out.
I thought it was: snap, live off the land in seclusion and build drone bombs from scratch
Also a fun outcome.
Just need a math degree
I think all you really need is a cabin, some ANFO, and determination.
A broken clock is right once a day. I use 24H time.
That's how you get a Manson family with 70 million members.
MK-ultra 2.0 : boogaloo boys
well that's good as I'd like to spend the next four years as far from reality as possible.
I'm thinking of getting a camper van to do just that.
Too late