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The rescue divers were the first real public turning point. He has always been crazy, but he tried really, really, really hard to project a cool-uncle, anti-establishment persona online before that.

I think he eventually just realized he was rich enough to stop caring and so he stopped pretending.

Teslas have been sold since 2005

So where do you think that car goes when you sell it?

People who own Cybertrucks might as well fly giant Trump and Elon flags. Fuck every single one of them.

Some people never heard. I see a lot of people accusing people of not listening, but for the first couple years I heard anything about Musk I didn't hear any negatives. I wasn't looking him up, I'd just see a joke or meme, and since I didn't care much I probably didn't even go into comments. I think the first real negative news I heard was the sub pedo incident.

Maybe the Model E Model 3 S3X thing, but at worst I considered that an immature joke and didn't think much further about it, nor heard anyway say anything seriously negative about it.

I'll always remember how surprised most of us were when he turned out to be a shitbag while those kids in Thailand were stuck in a cave. I had no opinion on him until then.

Yep. Elons always been a massive piece of shit.

The idiots who've spent the past decade slobbing all up and down his knob have just willfully turned a blind eye to it cause they subjugated themselves to his derranged cult of personality, that was built all around the idea of his "saviour of humanity" bullshit with regards to his stupid rockets and electric cars.

I always knew he was crazy, but I never thought he was “kill democracy” crazy. It’s a spectrum.

Because I bought a $60k car in 2018 that still works fine, and replacing a fully functional vehicle is a huge expense to undertake.

He used to be better at keeping his mouth shut.

He left trumps orbit last time he was president because Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.

Now he doesn't give a fuck about that or similar things.

He's definitely more crazy / things changed.

Cybertruck with a cardboard box over it, full Snake.

Problem is, most Telsa owners still have cars that have many good years left in them, and buying a different new or pre owned EV will be a hit to the pocket book. Especially after selling a rapidly depreciating Tesla.

I get why people are saying “fuck it, I’ll put a sticker on it.” Selling and buying a new car isn’t a thing many people want to do at the drop of a hat. I

This is often my thought process when I have to interact with a big company. If I never did any business that would benefit a bad person, I’d basically have to live in a hut in the woods.

However, there are degrees. For years I was sure a model 3 performance would be the perfect next car for me, but now like many people I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stomach owning a Tesla. The Musk connection has blown way past being embarrassing, and now buying one of those damn cars feels like supporting or at least accepting some horrible parts of humanity.

It’s not even a matter of hurting Musk’s bottom line, even though that would be nice. It’s about self respect, trying to put positivity into people’s lives instead of negativity, and being able to look my kid in the eye when he’s an adult and remembers the fucked up years we’re about to endure. I want absolutely zero to do with normalizing fascism and bigotry, even when it comes to something so mundane as the logo on my car.

This ^^

All the CEOs are assholes. The American car companies should’ve collapsed, but instead took a bailout and wasted it. The American consumer benefited basically nothing from the bailout.