I... agree with Nancy Pelosi on something?
Wtf is the world coming to.
(Fuck her opinion on Bernie's statement though - democrats are absolutely out of touch with the working class).
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If this is the last dance for democracy in America, a small part of the blame wil go not only to Biden for not leaving at the right time, but also RBG. Her insistence on not resigning during Obama's term, while Democrats held the Senate, enabled this, too.
She was holding out so that Hillary could pick her replacement. Welp...
Good news, turns out justice Sotomayor has health issues too!
Oh wait, that's the opposite of good news. The Democrats are just useless.
The GOP would still have a majority if she did resign. That was a kick to the nuts right before we got tossed down the stairs.
For fucks sake Nancy, retire and make room for new blood.
You're an albatross around the party's neck and actively fight against the party platform on things like stock regulations or holding the wealthy accountable in anyway.
Dems would be better off if everyone over 70 in the party got the fuck out of the way instead of desperately clinging to offic for personal power.
They'll keep rolling her out for campaigns like do with Bill Clinton. They view reaching high station in the party as being perpetually loved by the rank and file.
The one good thing the Republican party did was to stop pretending Bush II was popular. They ran away from this guy as soon as Obama was elected and pretended they never met the guy, so they could be a completely new party that couldn't be held accountable for past 'mistakes' (even though their policies never actually changed).
The Democrats on the other hand are still rolling out Clinton on the regular, even though he's responsible for a lot of issues we're seeing now, and was good friends with Epstein and Trump.
I was listening to CNN on the commute home tonight and one of the pundits said "The Democratic party needs to shake things up with some younger leadership... There's a lot of great people in their 50s and 60s in the party that could step up!"
Clown party. They are not serious. Ugh.
50s and 60s are OK ages for politicians. That age brings wisdom and experience. OTOH, they can't hang in long. Maybe 40s is a solid age range to start? (In the power roles, not lower down.)
The lady must have dirt tattooed on her body at this point. She's around because she's a backroom weapon.
She's right.
Man, I never thought I say that. Let here I am saying it.
All blame and no plan It's like corporate middle manglement
“Senior citizen who’s been in office for too long blames other senior citizen for staying in office for too long.”
Gah, I really wish Pelosi would exit politics herself.
Ah yes, if the democratic party had tactically shifted candidates at the right time, the US and the world could have continued business as usual for another 50 years.
Definitely. Absolutely!
No reason at all to consider that maybe people are completely fed up with the entire system, which strip-mines the planet's resources and the fruits of the workers' labor, to hand them to a dozen ghouls at the top.
And lacking literally ANY sane option for change, they chose an insane one.
How is Trump the cure for any of that?
He isn't.
He's a collectively shouted "fuck you" to the American political establishment.
He's the result of a system that made peaceful protest toothless and brings the hammer down on anyone trying to enact change through direct action.
His voters used the only means they have to slap the political old guard (of both parties) in the face, and enjoy their desperation for a while. They didn't feel like they had much to lose anyway.
Ah yes, I feel I can no longer peacefully protest so I think I’ll just standby and do nothing so a guy who thinks protesters should be shot or deported can take the reins. That’ll show ‘em!
I don't know if you noticed, but electing Trump wasn't a measured, logical, sensible decision.
Criticising how Trump's policies don't improve his voters' outlook is already missing the point entirely.
He isn't, but if you want something different from the same establishment bullshit that we've had for decades, he's the only option.
If you're on the right, you have the populist/fascist asshole you've always wanted.
If you're on the left, you either vote for neoliberalism to protect yourself from fascism, or you don't vote at all.
This time around, the left chose the latter. We're fucking tired, and it's the Dems that wore us out by never listening to a single fucking thing we asked for.
“I got tired of the system so I decided to let it burn down and take the lives of millions with it”
See Ukraine
See Gaza
See promises of mass deportation
But yes, you’re justified in your non participation because you didn’t actively vote for him, you just enabled his people to hand the control to a madman because you got tired of trying.
OP isn't talking about himself. He's talking about why so many libs sat it out.
This is it. Democrats will continue to talk about how they failed at execution so they don't have to talk about the real problem: their platform. At least with Trump some folks think there's a chance he shakes apart the whole system.
I voted for Harris, but I knew it was a lost cause from the moment she became the de facto nominee. She was a status quo candidate in a change election.
Pelosi, sit down and shut up. Your time is over.
Rather than the outrageous number of fascists and the disturbingly high number of people who’d rather not vote (or vote third party) instead of voting against the fascist in a meaningful way?
Like, I get there might have been issues with the Democratic campaign, but for fuck’s sake, the alternative was what you got. Well done. Hope the view was worth it from atop that high horse.
The average person wants change, they want the system that is actively oppressing them to change.
Trump has promised change. It's the worst imaginable, but he's promised it, he's made his voters feel heard and seen, and he showed them he was willing to upend the whole system to make change happen.
Harris told the American people she wouldn't significantly be different than Biden and that we "Weren't going back," which just sounds like "Status Quo with extra steps" to the average American. And when the voting base asked for something progressive to excite them, something to vote for, the DNC scolded them that the time wasn't right like they did in 2016, and 2020, and 2024, and probably 2028 at this point.
The system isn't working and people want change. Trump promises to change things up (for worse, again, to be clear), Harris promised to maintain the status quo that isn't working. I imagine after being disenfranchised and disillusioned election cycle after election cycle, and being ignored with fascism at the door...
I'm not saying it's right, but I think America chose negative change to maintaining the status quo for another 4 years. Which... If 2016 wasn't the canary in the coal mine, I would hope 2024 would be for the DNC. Turning further right is losing them their own voters while trying to win over Republicans who will never vote for them.
Their voting base is tired of being told now isn't the time for compromise/policy changes in the party, but then watching the party change policy and compromise with Republicans. You can't tell your voting base you'd rather be Fascist-lite than work with them, and be surprised when they refuse to support you. 🤷♀️
Well no shit, we've been saying that for months.
Nancy Pelosi is a lich