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Maybe this question seems stupid, so be it. But I've seen mostly bad news, and I struggle to get away from it.

I want to know this: What do you think is going to be good and or great in the upcoming four years of us politics?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (8 children)

There's a good chance he dies.

[–] edgemaster72 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think that's actually a worse scenario. Trump, while evil, doesn't really have the focus or energy to fully enact the entire range of bullshit he could/people say he will. If Vance takes over, his billionaire puppeteers are in full control and he'll enthusiastically continue on with Project 2025. If there's an election in 2028, he gets to run with the advantages of being the incumbent President instead of a VP hoping to take over from his predecessor.

[–] dhork 12 points 1 month ago

I call that "God's ultimate veto"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

But then we get a couch fucker as president.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm hoping he does before the inauguration.

[–] ExtraMedicated 8 points 1 month ago

My money's on choking to death on a burger while sitting on a toilet and jerking it to a picture of his daughter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great, President Vance is cuming for your couches.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The best case scenario: Trump, Vance and RFK Jr. all take the same Boeing flight to the inauguration and it crashes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I understand the sentinment but understand that a majority of voters voted for them.

Americans have decided they'd be willing to risk fascism for a chance of the gas prices drop by 5 cents.

They die then Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is president. He will baselessly claim the democrats shot down the plane.

There will be a nationwide purge of any non-maga-republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The slow death of the American empire. It may push the rest of the world to a geopolitical realignment that excludes the US. This could allow international organizations to proceed without having the US veto human rights, actions against climate change, or things like that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

You say that like it hasn't been in decline since 2000 or so lol

[–] dhork 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We will know that is happening if there is ever a real movement to abolish the UN Security Council, or at least the permanent seats that have veto power. Until then, the US will always have that power.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

The last 10 years provide excellent reasoning for the removal of the US, Russia, and Israel from any council where they have veto power. Especially given that veto power is often used to allow atrocities to continue.

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[–] Mighty 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Well there's hope that it incentivices the American people to revolt or revolution. So...yay?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

This is what we want. This is who we are as a nation. There will be no revolution.

[–] WoahWoah 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah totally. The mass of white liberals is going to suddenly revolt and start a revolution lol.

They're going to do what they always do: put their head down and rationalize the oppression of the poor, racial minorities, and women. That, at least, has will stay consistent.

"I DID my part! I took ten minutes out of my day to vote! What else could you possibly expect of me??"

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For people who have 401Ks or other investments, the likely deregulation pushes up stock prices (which is why the stock market had a big bump this week). Oh, sure, those regulations help protect the environment, workers rights, worker health and safety, etc., but: image

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[–] ieightpi 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I'm not holding my breath but this could be a huge turning point for the Democratic party where they may finally follow the populism playbook that Bernie started in 2016.

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[–] foggy 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The end of daylight savings.

Fuckhead almost did it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Oh heck yes! Normal hours please!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (13 children)

The tariffs might increase US manufacturing as many people won't want to trade. Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Or result in US businesses moving their trade dollars from tariff-affectrd countries to others that could really use the money, like Mexico or Central America.

[–] Pacattack57 4 points 1 month ago

I have a feeling even if this happens we’ll still see an increase in American goods. That high of tariffs ensures there is no competition and American companies can charge whatever they want.

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[–] dhork 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe I can pump another 10x out of my Crypto portfolio and retire early.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If everything works out okay yay.

If everything goes to shit republicans have nobody to blame because they have a majority everywhere and we can vote them out.

And the democrats got a wakeup call they can learn from (but they played the same 2016 tactics and got the same 2016 prize so we'll see if anything sticks next time)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

republicans have nobody to blame

They will always find someone to blame.

[–] lando55 9 points 1 month ago

Minorities. Immigrants. Illegals. The poor. The middle class. Big tech. The economy. China. India. They will always find something.

[–] db2 7 points 1 month ago

Even if it's complete and total nonsense.

[–] dhork 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That assumes there are no shenanigans with those elections. I believe we will have them (edited to clarify: I believe we will have elections as well as election shenanigans.) We'll just have to see how fair they are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Kinda hope people find out after fucking around so much

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The torrent of lies and absurd statements should keep the rest of the world entertained. For most Americans, it’s probably going to be horrifying, tragic and/or embarrassing.

Edit: corrected the mess left behind by autocorrect

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

should keep the rest of the world entrained.

Sorry, but you guys stopped being fun to watch a while ago.

It's now gone well beyond train-wreck levels of horrified "can't look away" viewing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sorry I'm not native English. I'm failing to figure out what "entrained" means here?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There is a possibility that Elno gets EVs mandated, or at least promoted to a greater extent. Of course this will only be for Tesla, but there would be a ripple effect on other brands.

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[–] MadBabs 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My hope is that people really radicalize and realize that it takes others to really thrive and fight in a world/system/government built to neglect. I how people band together more and build stronger communities and practice mutual aid, etc. And that people learn what white supremacy really is...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We're about to see how strong federalism really is. Federalism would either be the last defence against a autocracizing Federal government, or prove to be another joke.

(idk if I even spelled autocracizing correctly, too tired of this bullshit to spell)

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[–] FuglyDuck 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don’t really see him living for another 4 years. I expect his diet, lack of exercise and excess of bike to kill him off; assuming some whackadoodle doesn’t get to him first.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great question. I expect more people will move away from identity politics and embrace one of its many criticisms such as queer politics which is more inclusive of everyone.

Scholars have identified queer politics as the opposite of identity politics, aiming to unite diverse marginalized groups and transcend traditional categories.

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[–] pwnicholson 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There's a chance that Musk has bought himself enough influence to turn conservatives on climate change. I don't know if I expect it, exactly, but there's a chance at a scenario where there is at least some progress there.

Granted Musk will mostly use it to enrich himself, but if he at least stops then from repealing green subsidies and the like, that's movement in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What???

You know that nobody becomes a billionaire by giving a shit about anyone but themselves.

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[–] Buffalox 11 points 1 month ago

You are delusional both about Musk and conservatives.

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[–] Pacattack57 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s a lot of information floating around that SOUNDS good. Who knows what kind of things will happen honestly. At best, millions of people suffer and a portion of the population reaps the benefits. What decides how you’ll be affected is your tax bracket.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

My best guess is that now that people have fucked around, they'll soon find out. I believe a better world will eventually come into existence, but the transition is going to be slow, painful, and horrible for all of us.

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