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[–] [email protected] 118 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I wouldn't mind having the ability to schedule a reboot on my phone as an extra precaution.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think graphene does this by default now? Like if you don't unlock it for 24 hours it'll reboot.

[–] pHr34kY 27 points 4 days ago

18 hours by default.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Its an aosp feature i believe, but its disabled on many phones. Graphene and calyx have it. With calyx its default off, but you can set it between 1 and 72 hours. Very handy feature.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Graphene is set to reboot after six hours of inactivity, ensuring that it reboots every night after I've gone to bed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It probably requires root, but I'm sure Tasker can do this.

Really, all phones should have the option to reboot into locked mode on certain conditions like being taken out of network or being unattended for a while.

[–] solrize 3 points 4 days ago

The interesting thing is if the manufacturer is shipping them that way by default.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Could possibly also look at the motion sensors to see if it is in a pocket moving around or if it was sitting around for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Good idea, but a motivated attacker could put them on one of those rocker tables like they use for mixing blood. It also wouldn't cover the more common scenario of someone stealing it out of your hand.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is a shortcut action to shut down the phone which you could trigger with an automation, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I can put the phone in lockdown by press-holding the power button and select the "lockdown" option. Not bad, but an actual reboot daily at night wouldn't be so bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's not what I mean, I'm talking about the Shortcuts app:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This had never occurred to me before but it’s great, thanks! I expect that alarms don’t run until after first unlock, so 3am wouldn’t be great if I use the phone to wake up but later in the morning should be good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I believe it should still work, as alarms trigger for me even if my phone updated overnight or I put it on the charger dead before going to sleep, but I'll have to test it

[–] Kbobabob 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] CrazyLikeGollum 8 points 4 days ago

GrapheneOS has the option for a scheduled reboot if the phone hasn't been unlocked for a configurable amount of time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Dont know what lhone you are speaking of, but on Samsung phones, the only thing that this does is disabling biometrics and notifications. Your phone stays in AFU and this does not protect you from law enforcement or other

[–] halcyoncmdr 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It protects you from being compelled to provide biometrics to unlock the device. Since the courts have made a distinction between providing a password and biometrics to unlock devices for whatever asinine reason.

[–] morriscox 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Biometrics are what you have and a password is what you know. I can record you and look at you or even grab a part of your body (e.g., for fingerprints) but it's not possible to read your mind.

[–] kopasz7 7 points 4 days ago

I thought it's a standard feature (auto restart at set times). Maybe a samsung thing and not android.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

GrapheneOS has an option to reboot your phone after being locked for X hours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Check out GrapheneOS.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That would be super cool if that was a feature instead of a bug because anything that makes law enforcement's job harder is worth praising and doing properly.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS includes this feature

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It would be nice if this feature did not disable immediately if you turned it off and would require like say 48 hours and two more reboot cycles. That way if a cop took your phone from you and had it and went into the settings and turned the feature off it still wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or just require your Apple password to turn it off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just heard this like yesterday or today and so that's absolutely amazing. I don't think lineage has it though, which is sad. Although it is less useful on lineage since you can't re-lock boot loaders.

[–] deltapi 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, LOL. That is literally the only exception to that I know of.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah, seems like a reboot every 24 hours you're not unlocked would be extremely useful

[–] NeoNachtwaechter 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hardly ever have I seen an article so full of "could be", "alledgedly", "supposed", "likely", and "probably".

It may be because I have stopped reading about UFO's after the age of 15.

[–] halcyoncmdr 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Because they have no actual proof of it, and direct evidence against it. They talk about phones communicating with each other to restart... yet a phone inside a faraday box restarted.

It's almost certainly just a software bug in iOS which is why it's inconsistent.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's also the most unlikely explanation of all, that phones brought in communicated with the ones in custody to reboot them. Even if it was a security feature to reboot phones under certain conditions, which is very likely TBH graphene OS does this, the best implementation isn't going to be relying on other phones randomly passing near by, it's going to be self-managed by the phone that reboots.

[–] Zron 2 points 3 days ago

A remote command from some random phone to reboot does sound like the a wonderful vector for malware, though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Aren’t iPhones switching from AFU to BFU if you don’t unlock them long enough anyway? Or is BFU not the same state as entered if lock and volume down button are pressed for some time?

[–] Zron 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] qaz 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zron 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You Should Really Considering Explaining Acronyms Before Posting, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The acronyms in question are defined in the article, ysrcrtabr, you should really consider reading the article before replying

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I figured the whole thing out before reading the next sentence :(

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] lloydxmas 4 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

BFU = Before First Unlock
AFU = After First Unlock

[–] RangerJosie 3 points 3 days ago

Ha.

This is the only good thing about Apple products. Yes, the only one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

My phone rebooted occasionally on iOS18 and this was mentioned as fixed in 18.1 release notes so this story sounds plausible.