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Key Points

  • A federal judge in Pennsylvania returned to state court a lawsuit against Elon Musk and his political action committee over their $1 million daily giveaway to voters in swing states.
  • The order came a day after the lawsuit by city District Attorney Larry Krasner was removed to federal court at the request of the Tesla CEO Musk and his America PAC.
  • Krasner's lawsuit accuses Musk and the PAC, who are supporting Donald Trump over Kamala Harris, of running an illegal lottery.
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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So now they can go into court on Monday and by the end of the day there will be an order that he has to stop his election lottery for an election that happens less than a day later.

Good job everyone. You did it.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My understanding is that if they charge him, it being in a state court means Trump can't pardon him if he wins.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The lawsuit in question is a civil matter, not a criminal one, but you are correct that that is the case if a state prosecutor does decide to bring criminal charges

[–] GroundedGator 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It could actually be a criminal one but the speculation is that the burden of proof is much higher and this was the DA getting it on the books before the election. Nothing prevents them from bringing criminal charges after putting the evidence before a grand jury.

[–] RestrictedAccount 4 points 1 month ago

Exactly, it is a long time before the statute of limitations kicks in

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

So absurd that the judge didn’t order an emergency stay.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Our reality’s version of Tony Stark is a total double bag

[–] LEDZeppelin 44 points 1 month ago

Phony Shart

[–] thenextguy 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Justin Hammer, except he can't dance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago
[–] AshMan85 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Zachariah 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] AshMan85 5 points 1 month ago

im a huge star trek fan so i really appreciate this lol

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wish there was even a sliver of a chance that this meant jail time for this goof.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If any of us did something like this we’d get years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

You should see all the hoops a PTA has to jump through to avoid having a 50/50 drawing classed as an illegal lottery in Pa. It's ridiculous that it took as long as it did for someone to file suit.

[–] GroundedGator 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd be happy if they just deported him. I mean jail time and heavy fines would be the dream but I'll take him having to leave the country. Isn't that what they want us to do with foreigners that commit crimes anyway?

Edit: Reminded this is a civil case so no chance of jail or deportation. Bit of doesn't hurt to have dreams.

[–] Skullgrid 15 points 1 month ago

Edit: Reminded this is a civil case so no chance of jail or deportation.

He's the world's second richest fucking person. HOW DOES HE GET PUNISHED IF NOT JAIL OR DEPORTATION?! A fine isn't a real fucking thing, it's the equivalent of me giving less than a penny even though I commited a crime. It's basically free for him

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

South African Idiot ~~Savant~~ Fails To Understand American Court System

[–] PunnyName 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

So stricken

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or has lawyers that understand it perfectly and successfully delayed any injunctions until after it matters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

This. It's a delay tactic

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] thesohoriots 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

seeking to chill Defendant Musk’s exercise of his First Amendment rights is absolutely unconstitutional coming from a government official

Oh wait but he wouldn’t have any 1st amendment protections if (let’s face it, when) he lied to get that H1-B back in the day

[–] Armok_the_bunny 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah, the 1st amendment does protect non-citizens as well as citizens.

[–] thesohoriots 8 points 1 month ago

I learned something new! Thanks for the correction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

But on Wednesday night, lawyers for Musk and the PAC filed a notice removing the lawsuit to federal court.

Wait, that's something the lawyers for the defendant can just do on their own? WTF?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Now hall his ass into court.