This just maybe the craziest election I have experienced in my life.
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Depending on who wins this may be the craziest and last.
Super bleak, read at your own risk
If Trump wins it won't be the last election. Elections will become increasingly more of a sham than they already are, but the legitimacy propaganda is useful to Republicans. The electoral college will become more powerful, his supporters will throw out more ballots from poor districts, and the Supreme Court will keep overriding results. All this will be done while gaslighting the population about how they're fixing democracy.
Oh no.
But this election, you get your choice of toppings!
That’s good!
2000 was still worse, as presidential elections go. The race wasn't decided until December 12, 2000, only after the Brooks Bros Riot, and SCOTUS basically saying "Stop counting, Bush wins."
This is when I first started to hate ted cruz and was introduced to three of the current justices
Jesus Christ
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The 2000 election was decided illegally. Dems should have done a nationwide French-style full protest with complete work stoppage and vandalism.
The failure of FPTP was laid bare for all to see. Anyone who doesn't support RCV after that is either a fool or already bought.
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Well, December 12, 2024 hasn't happened yet. There's always a chance they get involved again
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Roger Stone was behind that madness, as well as J6 – he was so confident in their J6 plans, he had a legitimate documentary team following him that day as they did their ‘war room’ fuckery at the Willard hotel, and some of their footage was used at the J6 congressional hearings.
And good news, everybody! Stone is still walking free and doing more of the same fuckery as we speak! He’s still, to this day, a main operative behind trump’s campaign. Will be wild!
Roger Stone was convicted of his fuckery around congressional inquiries in 2020, seven felonies, and Trump commuted his sentence in July 2020.
Then in December 2020, Trump pardoned Stone, along with Manafort and Charles Kushner (father of Jared Kushner).
I'm not sure how it's very cool and very legal to be able to pardon people who did crimes for you, but there you have it.
Makes Bush v. Gore look tame
Some people born after the 2000 election are 23
Bush vs Gore was a fucking Met Gala compared to this Mad Max shit
Buckle up, this ride is just starting.
How do you just forget to lock the back of a truck full of ballots? There's so much weird shit going on right now it's hard to tell what's intentional and what isn't.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
-- George Carlin
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
-- Hanlon's razor
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
Also, Hanlon's razor just means that in normal circumstances stupidity is the simplest and most likely explanation, but malice is still a possibility, and these are far from normal circumstances... you've got a significant portion of the population which is both extremely stupid and extremely malicious...
How does a truck even need to be locked?
You slam the door shut and it stays shut.
It's Florida though. It having doors is a shocker.
I'm assuming it was a box truck with a roller door (like a garage door), and by locked, they might have meant latched. Forgetting to latch the door is a really easy mistake when in a rush or otherwise preoccupied and when the truck hits a bump, the door could easily roll up.
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I worked in geotech consulting and there is one piece of radioactive equipment used for soil testing that requires a certification to operate and transport in a vehicle, called a nuclear density/moisture gauge. Every year there’s an article that makes the news where a technician forgets to strap down the equipment so it doesn’t fall out the truck or not locking the box that holds the equipment and someone steals it. People really are stupid and lots of companies that give out work trucks don’t teach employees basic safety especially when towing or transporting fragile things.
Lmao. At least they were already counted. Now, if it comes down to a 2000 style election and these need to be recounted for awarding the electoral votes? Yikes.
They were already counted until some buffoon goes "Oh noe this is fraudulent, you need to go recount all the paper copies. Oh what do you mean you lost a bunch of paper copies? Those votes are invalid now, too bad teehee"
And then, when it looked like Gore might win, anyway, the Supreme Court just halted the recount altogether and declared bush the winner.
Unfortunately, Florida isn't even considered a swing state anymore. The only way this becomes an issue is if somehow Harris wins the state and it's all because of Miami-Dade cancelling out most of the rest of the state.
Harris winning Florida, 0 to slim chance. Miami-Dade being the reason, impossible.
That’s why I’m choosing to face the violence next Tuesday
If you're in a swing state I encourage you to find a way to vote early, waiting for election day is an unnecessary risk. (A lot of places have in-person early voting, for example.)
If you're not in a swing state, admittedly it matters a lot less what you do.
Yeah I’m in Ohio. We have two important votes, one of which (issue 1) is dead in the water because Frank LaRose maliciously changed the wording. But our attitude is that it’s not unlikely our state will try to throw out the early ballots.
Honestly, I don’t know the best course of action. This election is going really badly in regards to the overt interference from right wing authoritarians.
I think being afraid early ballots won't be counted is just playing into their hand because it prevents you from voting early - they probably want as many people to wait for election day as possible so people will bail on extremely long lines, they can try to shut down polling locations, they probably hope that people have emergencies or other issues that prevent them from voting, etc.
This is just classic voter suppression.
EDIT: I also wanted to point out that Republicans are pushing early voting this year, so they are unlikely to throw out early ballots as a strategy (whereas that seemed like a strategy they were trying to pull in the past, hence the flip-flopping on whether to vote early when in the past they encouraged only voting on election day).
Either way: please, please guarantee your vote is counted, do not risk it.
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Because mailing in your ballot and verifying it was counted through the online portal is hard? I don't understand. I voted last week and my vote is already counted as were these ballots. Nothing was lost.
Because my wife worries that early votes may be contested more thoroughly or tampered with more heavily than in person ones. And if I’m being honest I wasn’t aware that the online portals let you see if your vote is counted. I check them before the election but not after.
Early voting is the right choice for most people, but we’re choosing to do day of. If that means we’re in line until dawn I respect my wife’s decision there.
It's funny how all these "errors" seem to occur in blue areas, isn't it?
Yes, almost as if some people are trying to sabotage voting specifically in blue areas.
How many errors have there been?
Multiple things like https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/this-is-political-bullst-former-republican-candidate-charged-with-stealing-madison-county-election-ballots/ and ballot boxes being burned in blue areas, though
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