How the fuck has everyone forgotten how miserable 2019 and 2020 were? Now the economy is booming and then want to go back to that?
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Like who the fuck lived from 2016 through 2020 and thinks that that was anything other than a clusterfuck and wants to return to that again?
Fucking moron republicunts.
I don't care what the economy is doing when my pay goes down every year. I'm voting for Kamala, though. It'll be worse under Trump, and so will a myriad, of other things like Ukraine, NATO, and civility within this country.
"Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses, and American universities - and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, [...] you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The public sucks. Fuck hope.'" -- George Carlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBrbXOmnW70
I don't completely agree: slavery is now illegal; so there's hope they'll one day vote to oppose omnicidal biosphere destruction, and genocides.
Slavery is still legal
They don’t fall out of the sky, or a coconut tree‽
I think part of the issue is more related to the Peter Principle, the job that one must be good at in order to become a politician has a different skill set from that which makes one a good politician.
Selling democracy and the rule of law for empty promises of a slightly better economy.
I don't care how out of touch with reality these people are, they remember January 6th, they know what Trump is all about. Supporting the fascists now because of the economy is no different than supporting them then because at least the trains run on time.
Well, that's not entirely fair. The fascists then weren't running on a platform that was guaranteed to derail the trains.
Selling is the wrong word. They already own it. It's all just distractions and projecting.
There are only two groups of voters.
People that are voting to save democracy, and people that want to destroy it.
If someone tells you they're not voting or they are undecided. The reality is they're voting to destroy democracy.
It is unironically the least nuanced election choice in American (and probably global) history
It's not the economy. If it was, they wouldn't be considering the guy who wants to throw tariffs around willy-nilly. It's one of the other things. You know, those things.
This assumes they understand what tariffs do to an economy. And considering they sat out 2020 they probably aren't too well-read.
Hmmm... I'm not sure who to vote for... Democracy is pretty OK, I guess, but what about fascism this time? Nothing wrong with a little deadly nazi fascism every now and then, right? Maybe just a little, as a treat...
But she’s weighed down by a number of important factors: a dim diagnosis of America’s economy, negative views about life during President Joe Biden’s administration and a lack of familiarity with her, which has bred ambivalence and distrust.
No mention of Gaza? Seriously?
Gaza is going to look like a joke compared to what happens to the world when Trump gets elected.
I guarantee you with 100% certainty within 6 months of Trump being elected you will not give any fucks about Gaza. Not. A. Single. Fuck.
Within a couple years people around you won't even remember Gaza was a "thing".
If America doesn't vote for Harris that's what will happen.
I will eat forty pounds of pig shit live on whatever autocraticly approved media platform is in control of your mind in 6 months after Trump is elected if I'm wrong.
I guarantee you with 100% certainty within 6 months of Trump being elected you will not give any fucks about Gaza.
If Trump wins there won't be a Gaza to worry about. Bibi will turn it into a glass parking lot.
Don't it always seem to go
!remindme 6 months
Okay telling me, an Arab, that I won't care about Gaza in six months is... interesting, but do your thing I guess. That aside, has anyone told you that this attitude is condescending as fuck?
These are very low information voters.
There's a big bubble here with the number of people outraged about Gaza vs the average American giving no fucks.
The average American does, in fact, give at least a few fucks about Gaza and the prospect of another war in the Middle East. You can look up the polls yourself. Also, even if the average American didn't care, the average swing state American sure as hell does. Michigan gets the most popularity, but the American Midwest in general has a high number of Muslims who are a key demographic in this election. And, you know, people generally don't like genocide.
A poll that prompts for a response for what someone thinks about a particular topic is not the same as figuring out whether the respondent regularly thinks about that topic when not being polled.
Undecided voters don't give a shit about Gaza. They couldn't even tell you what continent Gaza is on.
They think Gaza is the place with the pyramids
Well if it's not then why are they fighting over it?
/s
You're literally saying that Palestinian and Muslim voters have no idea where Gaza is?
Undecided voters.
Can you read?
Gaza isn’t much of a topic outside of lemmy, far left, and some young people.
And among American Muslims. I count two absolutely necessary demographics if Harris wants to win in November here.
I don’t think those people will be the tipping point. Any of them who think “Harris won’t help” certainly cannot think that trump will. perhaps they won’t vote at all. I suppose not voting is a strategy that has proven itself to work, time and time again. Leaving the decision to fate, I guess. Knowing that the absence of their vote will truly change things. Take that, Harris.
Take that, Harris.
Literally yes. Democrat turnout has been the deciding factor in elections for decades now. When democrat voters stay home, Democrats lose the election.
I’m sure the electoral college has already made up their mind.
it's a puff piece meant to cast nonvoters in a pejorative light; adding in gaza would be too on-the-nose.
Nonvoters should be cast in a pejorative light. People should be ashamed not to vote. If you don't care enough to decide the difference between two incredibly opposite futures for the country we should collectively dump your ass in the dead center of the Atlantic Ocean. Both sides are the same, right?
A significant portion of them can't vote because of voter suppression and the dnc is not bothering to help.
I agree, you're right. When I see nonvoter I assume moron instead of disenfranchised. There are far more of the former than the latter.
Don't let that commenter gaslight you. They weren't referencing disenfranchised voters - those who can't vote - when they wrote "Gaza would be too on-the-nose."
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