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[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 days ago (3 children)

In Hitler's defense, he did kill Hitler.

[–] bcgm3 54 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but he also killed the guy who killed Hitler.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

He sleeps with My New Order by Hitler next to his bed. Wants to be a dictator on day 1. Sees good people at a Nazi march. Wants generals like Hitler’s. By George he just may be a Nazi. - Edited

[–] bunkyprewster 34 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Didn't Hitler's generals try to assassinate Hitler?

[–] kernelle 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Per the book, [former chief of staff] Kelly explained to Trump that German generals “tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off.” “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the president is said to have responded.

Source

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[–] Valmond 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even Hitler tried to assassinate Hitler

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[–] grue 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He sleeps with Mein Kampf next to his bed.

Not Mein Kampf, but rather My New Order, which is a collection of Hitler's speeches. Trump is a fan of Hitler's propaganda and rhetoric specifically.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Sadly, politics are so f***ed up that I have to agree with something Trump has said: He can shoot someone in Times Square and not lose a single vote.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago

That's what happens with cults.

[–] TurnpikeRangers 12 points 5 days ago

As Cady Heron once famously said, "The limit does not exist." Nothing, absolutely nothing, will cause him to lose support. The people who support him love him more than anything, and they will do whatever it takes to support him. They will break their own moral code, they will bend over backwards to make his rhetoric fit their morals, they will turn their back on everything they've ever known or loved if that's what it takes to continue to support him. Because he is the most important thing in their lives.

Idk how old you are but there used to be discussions about how we can beat terrorists, a group of people who willingly kill themselves to inflict damage. How do you beat an enemy in war who views their own death as a victory?

That's what we're up against with trump. There is no inroad, there is no common ground, there is no logic. It's a cult, plain and simple. How do you stop someone who wants to die for their cause? Maybe trump supporters don't want to literally die for him, but they damn sure would give up everything else for him.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (5 children)

What if he shot a supporter though?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That supporter was secretly working for the Deep State.

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[–] eran_morad 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The supporter’s family would line up to suck his asshole in appreciation.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I understand the concept of appealing to a better nature but, ma'am this is America. We still revere Henry Ford, we imported Nazi scientists because of some self imposed space race. Outside of WW2, (where we didn't even voluntary join we needed to be attacked first) our history shows were far far more likely to ignore or tacitly support fascism. Be careful asking questions you don't want the answer to Harris.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 20 points 5 days ago

We still revere Henry Ford

I wonder how many Americans know about Ford's quest to reignite antisemitism in Europe by foisting "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" books at every one of his overseas car dealerships.

I wonder if we'll shove all Elon Musk's reactionary bullshit down the rabbit hole when his legacy think tank full of right wing psychos is sponsoring the next generation of History Channel and TLC episodes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Reagan: "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism"

The politically literate: "But, Ronny, you're a (neo)liberal!"

[–] Diplomjodler3 60 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes of course they will. Trumps cultists know exactly what he is and they vote for him because of that.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Sadly, yes.

I'm really hoping "It's a close race..." is code for "Harris is favored to win, but we rigged the polls to show them neck and neck so that there's still a news cycle."

[–] Fedizen 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

there is a 100% chance of Harris winning the popular vote. Unfortunately billions of dollars spent on like 100,000 people in 7 states will be what decides the election and there's a 1% chance of a tie which will throw it to the house of reps for some reason.

The need to reform the electoral college and ban gerrymandering has never been greater

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm worried cause I see the Democrats doing the "smart" thing of finding the exact counties they need to win. And aggressively pushing and trying to play to them alone.

And that doesn't seem like a smart strategy. In fact it feels like Hillary or Disney's failings where playing it safe and doing "smart" math doesn't work to do something productive and barely scrapes them by.
I don't see this being a landslide. And I'm worried their math will mean nothing in the real world.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 6 points 5 days ago

“It’s a close race…” is code for

Nothing so auspicious. It's more "we never actually have a clue, because our job is to sell ads not tell you useful information".

News media had Obama in a tight race when it was a blowout. They had Hilary in a blowout when it was a nail biter. They called Florida for Al Gore early on election night. They aren't honest or useful or knowledgeable in any way that makes them a valuable source of information.

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[–] DukeHawthorne 27 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Calling Trump a fascist just makes his supports love him even more.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 6 points 5 days ago

It also reinforces who he is to less hard core supporters which may have a positive effect over time.

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[–] inclementimmigrant 25 points 5 days ago

Yes because there's a lot of Nazis and Nazi sympathizers in America currently.

[–] Fedizen 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

this kind of rhetoric will never work against somebody who was already president. Her campaign has made a mistake, which honestly shouldn't be big enough to crash the election but its the US and the electoral college who the fuck knows how 5000 psychopaths in swing states are going to vote after being bombarded with record breaking levels of insane propaganda..

It should be clear that the easy way to campaign on trump is to hit him hard in the economy: He had to bailout farmers because of his first round of tariffs. US steel still hasn't recovered. Trump tariffs will not only raise prices but the resulting bailouts will drastically increase inflation and eventually he will run out of scapegoats to blame his failures on so however loyal to trump you seem to be, eventually he will blame you and send the military on you for criticizing him

edit: Just to clarify what she's saying is correct, its just that voters swayable to this argument have already picked sides.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I really don't understand why neither the Harris or Biden campaign just roiled out footage of the Covid-19 lockdown in a short film titled "Literally the last time this motherfucker was in charge"

Cause ya know, that would work...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They're holding pat with, "Hey, we're not the other guy. And that should be enough."

And anyone who says, well maybe that's not enough, gets lambasted.

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[–] Sam_Bass 24 points 5 days ago

the neonazis and white supremicists and basically all the butthurt bumpkins will

[–] xc2215x 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] danc4498 12 points 5 days ago

He wasn’t even a good artist.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Didn't they already do that at least once?

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[–] MTK 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't like to judge people black on white.

Hitler did kill Hitler, so there's something good to say about him

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