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[–] just_another_person 114 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's illegal, regardless of whether or not his own language mentions a candidate to vote for. Nobody will press charges because they don't want to waste the time and money though. It would have to be a grassroots campaign to get charges filed.

Get to it, Pennsylvania!

[–] pivot_root 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, rich assholes like Musk tend to be above the consequences of the law. Even if a grassroots movement gets far enough for him to be convicted of anything, he'll just get a slap on the wrist like every other billionaire douchebag.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

the oligarchs run the country.

[–] mriormro 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] davidgro 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

... And that site now redirects to a different project of theirs. I wonder if the law this user found actually does apply and they had to stop.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Yes, in response to Musks activities

[–] shalafi 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Chapter and verse, what exactly is illegal?

Everyone keeps saying this but I'm not aware of a law against holding a lottery for petition signers. In any case, a suit would be such thin sauce that no prosecutor would dare throw down. Not because he's rich so much as the government would lose.

Love to wrong here folks, that's often how I learn. Come at me with law, not feel.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not a lawyer but with a search, I found 18 U.S. Code § 597 - Expenditures to influence voting; more details at: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597

[–] errer 6 points 2 months ago

That criminalizes paying for votes, it’s not clear that this scheme (ethically problematic as it may be) violates the letter of this law…

[–] Dran_Arcana 7 points 2 months ago

I think it's one of those things that is against the spirit of a law but not the letter of it. It feels illegal, it probably should be illegal, it might be illegal in the future, but for now it's sketchy but technically above board.

[–] over_clox 81 points 2 months ago

Bribery, plain and simple.

Lock them both up.

[–] TheGiantKorean 59 points 2 months ago

I'll honestly be shocked if they actually do anything about it, and that saddens me.

[–] themeatbridge 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok, but I'm in Pennsylvania. How do I get that cheddar?

[–] over_clox 13 points 2 months ago

By sucking Elon's dick cheese, obviously.

[–] rock_hand 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Who said you have to be a Trump voter?

I’m not being dense I know where it’s aimed, but shouldn’t a shit ton of left leaning voters sign it and take the odds?

[–] rigatti 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wanted to sign it to waste his money, but I also don't want to submit my information to Musky.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's probably already got it. Do it for the money!

[–] TheBat 3 points 2 months ago

Get that money for Steam winter sale!

[–] shalafi 3 points 2 months ago

Musk didn't dare tell anyone how to vote in exchange for signing up for his lottery. Go for it!

[–] ChowJeeBai 4 points 2 months ago

Putin: they can DO that in the US?

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