this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2024
322 points (97.9% liked)

Technology

60029 readers
3944 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Google's notoriously wonky AI Overviews feature — you know, the one that repeatedly makes up facts and literally tells users to eat rocks — is about to get a whole lot more annoying.

On Thursday, the tech giant announced that its AI-generated search summaries will now begin to show ads above, below, and within them, as a way of demonstrating that the technology is capable of actually making money.

It will also serve to assuage concerns that AI chatbots could eat into search ad revenues, which are Google's biggest cash cow.

Now, if you search how to get a grass stain out of jeans, as seen in an example in Google's blog post, you'll get an AI summary which contains a carousel of relevant website links, plus a heavy helping of "Sponsored" ads for stain removers. Revolutionary stuff.

all 28 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 66 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You guys can hate on this but I, for one, have always dreamed of unreliable search results with links to relevant businesses embedded within the text. If only a voice assistant could read them out loud and also remind me to drink Pepsi every other paragraph, we’ll finally have achieved the promise of the Internet.

[–] thesohoriots 8 points 2 months ago

Nah man, you want New Coke. Catch the wave.

[–] tpihkal 3 points 2 months ago

Personally, I won't be happy until there are unskippable video ads before two pages of sponsored results with an AI summary somewhere in the middle of the third page of search results.

Of course there should be popups when advancing between search results pages.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

AI as far as big tech is concerned is simply a way to "fix" search engines so that they don't do the awful crime of fundamentally segregating ads from search results.

it is literally the whole damn point of shoving AI down everybodies throat...

[–] bassomitron 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it is literally the whole damn point of shoving AI down everybodies throat...

To be fair, it didn't start out that way. A lot of tech companies just didn't want to be seen as being behind while OpenAI was making shockwaves around the globe. Iirc, after ChatGPT hit the mainstream a couple years ago, Google's CEO was said to have sent a company-wide email demanding their own AI research become their number 1 priority.

Now that they finally have their own competitive model, they have to justify why they spent hundreds of millions of dollars over numerous years on this tech. Unfortunately for the rest of us, this just means enshittification will reach new levels... sigh...

[–] spankmonkey 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"This other company is lying about how good their product is and everyone is buying their bullshit. We can't miss the bandwagon!"

[–] Alphane_Moon 4 points 2 months ago

It would be hilarious if Pichai actually sent an email like this (or even more aggressive and truthful).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ads have become so deeply embedded into search results that even Google now can no longer tell the difference between them!?!?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It can, it's just unprofitable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I wonder... how many months would it take even Google to sort it all out now, if it wanted to? At some point, even if they haven't crossed it yet, certain knowledge simply becomes lost forever.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cool, now it's terrible and annoying. Use another search engine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Honestly, switching over to SearXNG was the best choice I ever made. Not only do I not have to see this AI bullshit, but it's so refreshing to not have to append "reddit" to the end of nearly every search I do to find anything even remotely useful. Being able to self-host it is also really nice now that I've gotten it and nginx set up.

It ain't perfect, but the last time I felt like I discovered such a big improvement to using the Internet was when I found out about ad-blockers.

[–] subspaceinterferents 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Done with Google. Now paying $5 a month to use Kagi.com. Worth it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In case anyone reading this is curious, Kagi is not capable of storing the impossibly vast and expensive data storage and speeds required to query large indexes of the internet, and so leverages Google and Bing indexes in its search, which is exactly what SearXNG and DuckDuckGo both do for free.

What you pay for is honestly a fancy UI and the ability to quality control the search results for them, again already done for free by other search engines.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait, for real? I really thought kagi had its own thing going on, and that was why people would pay for it. Not like a fully bespoke index, but I assumed it was more than that. I guess the "quality control" is what I had heard about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

There's no way on Satan's green earth that a small startup company started in 2018 has a search engine index as large and fast as the one started 30 years ago and has been indexing the entire internet since then (Google). Even Microsoft can't compete without dumping billions of dollars into Bing by forcing people to use it as default on their operating systems, renting/purchasing the now ancient Yahoo indexing databases, leeching software engineer talent from competitors with promises of huge paychecks, and greasing hands in China.

[–] bokherif 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ll stop going online before I have to pay for a fucking search engine.

[–] sirboozebum 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you are not paying then you are the product.

[–] bokherif 4 points 2 months ago

I don’t think that means what you think it means.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Same. Completed my switch this week on all my devices. No regrets. The results are excellent and well organized and it’s really useful.

Next project is to add the rest of my family to the family plan

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yup. I signed up to their unlimited a while ago, so I was happy to not notice this at all. 🙂👍

[–] ohwhatfollyisman 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

why would any of google's customers pay to stuff its ads into such a broken feature?

it's like embossing your logo within a toilet bowl -- sure, a lot of people will get to see it but mostly only when it's submerged in shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

because the feature works more than 1/3 the time (in my experience).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

if it was terrible before then this doesn't change anything

[–] nucleative 3 points 2 months ago

I sure hope there is some mechanism to compensate content creators because without traffic, there will be no new articles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

&udm=14 might still work for a while.

[–] linearchaos 1 points 2 months ago

On the upside, maybe the ads won't be as horrible as the AI results.