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[–] Zerlyna 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

This hits home because I just got custody of my gay niece from Florida. (I’m not sure if it’s much better in TN with me.). She asked me last night why I cared about politics. I explained to her that my votes now shape her life for when she is an adult. I try to use that reframing with all my conservative friends. It’s not about me, it’s about her.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately most conservatives are from the f*** you got mine school of thought.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Empathy really seems to be the main divider of leftist vs cons (conservatives.) Leftists care about other people. They want to make the world better for everyone. Cons dont.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If your Tennessee is like the rural Tennessee town I live in... They don't care.

It's a shame really.. these people here in my town absolutely vote against their own interests and then tell you you're a tool / mouthpiece of the devil if you attempt to introduce actual fact into the conversation.

Blows my mind how limited people tolerate of themselves.

[–] Zerlyna 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not exactly Rural but this gives me hope seeing another dot of TN blue on Lemmy. 💙

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah we are out here.. as you know they've tried to gerrymander us out of existence.. but we are still here. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Tennessee is pretty bad for gay kids.

[–] Wxfisch 70 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So in a nutshell, it’s no longer sex ed, it’s indoctrination

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, not sure what you'd even talk about if you can't mention anatomy or contraception. I guess it's good that there's the internet where you can look stuff up nowadays, but it's still messed up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Oh, they want age limits and registration to fix that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Some might say that sex-ed is indoctrination.

Those people are morons, but they say it

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt 4 points 4 months ago

no no no, it's only indoctrination if it doesn't align with their belief structure. This is just an classic old fashioned education

/s

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is how you get more teen pregnancies.

In case no one else noticed in Florida, people are going to have sex no matter what. Not telling them how to do it safely is kind of like telling all your pilots they can't have training, but knowing full well they will still fly the planes.

[–] Zorque 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Except in the former they get more poor uninformed voters, and the latter planes fall out of the sky.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You're giving them too much credit, I'd say. It's hard to tell if this is 5d chess towards a conservative wet dream or just the usual christofascist nonsense. It sounds a lot like abstinence-only education, which has been a failing strategy from the Right forever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

which has been a failing strategy from the Right forever

Again, if it results in more poor kids with poor education and few prospects, that's not a failing strategy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps not for the platform, but for humanity, it is an absolute failure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Oh, of course, but that's the case for pretty much all conservative policy

[–] grue 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s hard to tell if this is 5d chess towards a conservative wet dream or just the usual christofascist nonsense.

What's the difference?

It sounds a lot like abstinence-only education, which has been a failing strategy from the Right forever.

If their goal is as Zorque just described -- and it is, by the way -- then it's been a great success forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

What's the difference?

The stated goal of abstinence-only education is that young people don't have sex until marriage. It fails at that. The (un)stated goal of the christofascists is probably keeping the future labor pool large so wages stay low, but it is at odds with the social goal.

[–] Zorque 1 points 3 months ago

You're not giving them anywhere near enough credit if you think a super simple strategy of pandering to the uninformed bundled with restricting education is somehow "5D chess".

Don't be fooled by all the mouth breathers they trot out to preach their dogma, they're the rodeo clowns designed to distract you from the matador stabbing us with spears.

I won't say it's all cohesive, or that within their ranks there isn't dissection and in-fighting... but anti-education and pro-righteousness is the baseline that they all follow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Boeing enters the chat. I'm aware its not a 1-to-1 analogy, but union busting, deregulation, and generally just shitting on education so voters vote against their own self interest I would guess has caused planes to fall out of the sky...

[–] Grogon 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not from the US but everytime I read Florida and DeSantis I am ready for the content and I know it is going to be interesting.

I mean, Florida has people who race away from cops and hide cocaine up the nose. It's a wild state. People from my country really go on vacation to florida to experience this. Walmart is a highlight.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, a lot of the other states are just as bad, if not worse. Florida just has some laws that make criminal activity open record so that stuff goes straight to the news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, there are booklets you can buy every week/month (I forget which it's been awhile) that is nothing but the latest arrest photos and crime.

I don't know of any other state that does that. That's the reason why "Florida man" exists as a meme. But all those crimes happen everywhere else too. In other states and other countries.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A classic. They want more child pregnancies to lock poor families in debt, have more girls miss out on education and take advantage of them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Poor kids with poor prospects is also great for military recruitment

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Idk about everywhere else but incest is rampant in the South. The problems resulting is readily apparent, in the offspring of this horrible practice. I'll never forget two adult children of incest I know who told me things I won't repeat here, for their privacy, but the psychological issues and desire for patricide are palpable.

[–] atrielienz 27 points 4 months ago

This is what people who are sexual abusers do to prevent their victims from having the knowledge to understand what's happening to them and that it's wrong.

[–] DMBFFF 19 points 4 months ago

I guess the kids in Florida will be learning from porn, with Florida teachers wagging their fingers.

Now bow to your master, governor: bow to Trump, you worm!

[–] saltesc 17 points 4 months ago

Okay,.it's time.to start investigating these people for sex crimes. Whenever weird shit like this happens, it's almost always the people involved projecting way too hard.

[–] njm1314 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So what the fuck do they even talk about then? I mean when I was in school my sex ed was 100% just one day on VD, but even they had to mention Anatomy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It also had a video showing how horrific (a normal, healthy) childbirth actually is for my class. Need a lot more of that. Your average adult woman doesn't even know.

[–] Twentytwodividedby7 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Our health teacher rewound the birth so it looked like the doctor pushed the baby back in lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I can just imagine the woman screaming, "No!! Noo!!!"

[–] BigTrout75 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cort 1 points 3 months ago

That's what your mom said /s

[–] LordCrom 6 points 4 months ago

Our governor is a pandering idiot

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

They only banned the word "fluid" because they think it's icky istg

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The new rehash of Florida Man is gonna be wild.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

"Florida Gov DeSantis moves the onus of sex education to creepy uncles across the state so they can more easily groom children in their family"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Bro saw this meme and got terrified

[–] Blaster_M 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Parents, teach your kids this stuff, because public school classes won't, and they'll learn in the hot seat if you don't...