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[–] Subverb 106 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Assuming this isn't just shopped, which it probably is... As a guy that bakes cakes from scratch a couple of times a year, two things:

  1. Props to whomever got that pattern into the cake, that couldn't have been easy. Imagine: There's a toroidal swastika in that cake.
  2. That's one ugly-ass cake for having spent so much time on it.
[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I guess it’s the same concept as a checkerboard cake just cutting the rings to make a swastika instead. But yeah why go through all the mess to make the outside that sloppy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because, even for Nazis, it's the inside that counts.

Nazism will even cover up for the sin of you not being white.

[–] WaxedWookie 5 points 4 months ago

Fascism is, as much as anything, a process of exterminating those you don't like until things collapse. Nazism will cover the sin of you not being white - but only for a while - you'll find yourself back at the front of the queue once those more "undesirable" than you are shuffled off to the camps.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The image is so blurry… the foreground slice could have been a paper swastika cutout placed on the slice and cocoa powder sprinkled on it to create the symbol. The background cake looks partly copied from the foreground swastika.

E: autocorrect is annoying af

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The partial swastika is facing the wrong direction. Or I guess the slice is upside-down. Looks like two thin sheet cakes samwhiching a glob of frosting or ganache.

[–] jaybone 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s the right direction. Look at where the top is on the cut piece, and think of which direction you will flip it when you put it down on the plate.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the slice is upside down.

[–] jaybone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They just tilted to the right to put it on the plate rather than tilted to the left. Does that really make it upside down?

Is tilting to the right to drop a piece of cake on a plate violating some kind of standard cake serving protocol?

EDIT or in other words, had they tilted the serving utensil to the left to drop the slice on the plate, the swastike would match the orientation you see on the remaining uncut portion of the cake.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I still think about my white coworker who said that the 1920s were the best times. And I had to remind him his mixed wife and kids would disagree with him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess, he's probably enjoys drinking alcohol too.

[–] WaxedWookie 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

...but Gatsby! and flapper dresses! and wealthy industrialists!

It's all vibes from people painfully ignorant of the time they yearn for.

[–] SkunkWorkz 3 points 4 months ago

It’s like when people read or watch a period drama that takes place before the 20th century and then they wish they were born back then. They forget that they would be born as a peasant or slave working the fields or mines and every decade they and their sons are forced into the meat grinder of war.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's not a Nazi swastika, for the record.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It doesnt matter how pedantic you try to get. At this point every swastika is a nazi swastika unless you find it in a Buddhist temple.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I find that insulting to the cultures and people who have used it for a thousand years and continue to do so. I'd rather be pedantic than dismissive of their much older beliefs.

[–] BradleyUffner 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's on the Nazis and the people that still tolerate them and fly their symbols.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A Nazi swastika is tilted at 45°, and points to the right (though the one in this cake could point either direction depending on which side you're looking at).

A swastika in this style is a religious symbol used in many eastern faiths and belief systems, including Buddhism.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

The Nazi flag used a 45° rotated swastiska. However horizontal swastikas were also commonly used by the Nazis.

[–] 5oap10116 13 points 4 months ago

Aside from the fact that the only good nazi is a dead nazi, that takes a lot of planning and effort.

[–] hOrni 5 points 4 months ago

The swasticake.

[–] sazey 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have a feeling someone baked this cake just for the meme.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I distinctly remember debating with a person from my old Internet community. The person is anti-globalisation whereas I am pro. This was before I realised right wingers are anti-globalisation, but he blamed the rise of far left and far right in the 20th century to globalisation, and also blamed the fall of Rome to foreigners with the Germanic invasions (it is an oversimplification as to why Germanic peoples invaded but many viewed themselves as also Romans; hence why the later Holy Roman Empire is Germanic). Then after a while, the discussion turned to women's rights because I mentioned Westerners just don't have as many children and therefore immigration is necessity . The interlocutor then basically argued that women should have more children. I alluded that there was a certain political party that explicitly viewed women as baby churners in order to breed more people for their race (I'm referring to the Nazis of course, but I should have also mentioned at the time the Islamic fundamentalists also do the same).

Someone mentioned that the user I debated with changed over time within the community. I later learned that the person got banned.

Advocating for traditional values is not in and of itself wrong, but if those values impede another person's rights then those values are not worth actually worth valuing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Tribalism is a terrible thing, and unfortunately part of human nature. Those people over there want my fucking deer meet, and this cozy cave I have: I need to hate them.

[–] mtpender 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Isn't that the Buddhist/Hindu version?

[–] Brickhead92 3 points 4 months ago

From Wikipedia:

In Hinduism, the right-facing symbol (clockwise) (卐) is called swastika, symbolizing surya ('sun'), prosperity and good luck, while the left-facing symbol (counter-clockwise) (卍) is called sauvastika, symbolising night or tantric aspects of Kali.

I thought the big difference came down to the direction it was facing, but turns out both directions are the Hindu way with different meaning. And depending which side of the cake or the slice you look at it will be both ways. The other distinction between the two is that the Nazi one is usually tilted to 45 degrees.

[–] OldChicoAle 3 points 4 months ago

It can go in either direction, but it's more commonly in the opposite of what is shown here

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[–] linearchaos 2 points 4 months ago

I wish they would have done it better so I could call it the best ATBGE ever. But it looks like the basket just replaced a big block Chevy before they baked the cake.

Kind of a beat idea, I want to make a Minecraft one now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I believe in TRADITIONAL FAMILY VALUES like HARD WORK through HUNTING and GATHERING and COMMUNAL LIVING and DYING AT THE AGE OF 5 and BEING AFRAID OF FIRE and YEETING YOUR KIDS INTO THE FOREST WHEN THEY BECOME ADULTS.

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