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[–] 9point6 132 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

> wants to use a doctors' services

> Refuses the doctors services when doing this

Why don't they want to help?

[–] billiam0202 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"This Facebook video I watched while taking a shit totally proves the truth about vaccines that those people who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and nearly a decade of their life each to be allowed to prescribe are hiding from you!"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Another poor soul asswormed by Big Toilet. Sad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Big skibidi toilet

[–] GladiusB 3 points 3 months ago

Because they don't want to get sued for stupidity when they end up dying

[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This should 100% trigger an immediate visit from CPS

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Without question. I think CPS should apprehend every unvaccinated (outside of medical reasons) child and make it a condition of returning them. I know that won't happen but surely that's a sign of shit parenting and child abuse.

[+] spankmonkey -28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

Bodily autonomy doesn't apply when the choices made can affect many more people than yourself. I also don't think the isolation excuse works, as diseases can have carriers giving them a route to those pockets that aren't protected. Pretty sure we've seen that kind of flareup before, with the antivac crowds confused as to what happened.

Kids with medical reasons why they can't get a vaccine aren't a risk to the vaccinated group, they are AT risk, but they are much more protected within that group than with a bunch of unvaccinated ones.

[–] billiam0202 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's a strong case to be made that for any society, the citizen's rights to bodily autonomy should be secondary to the health of that society, especially when the procedure in question is so trivially easy to get and overwhelmingly safe to do so and (it should go without saying) when all objections to said procedure are based solely on political ideology.

The flip side of the rights granted to citizens from a society is a responsibility to that society, which is where the selfishness of conservative ideology is exposed.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you try to spread antivax disinformation in this community you will be banned. Your only warning.

[–] spankmonkey -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I figured that my post including this was clear enough that I'm in favor of vaccines, but I guess anything short of 100% support for something is too close to malicious actors to have any kind of nuanced discussion.

I am completely in favor of vaccine requirements for attending public schools, with only medical exemptions to not be vaccinated. No religious exemptions.

I actually think most jobs should have vaccine requirements too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why in the world would you not be 100% in favor of vaccines?

[–] spankmonkey 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I am 100% in favor of vaccines. They are safe for the vast majority of people and the best medical breakthrough in human history.

The only thing I am not 100% in favor of is treating a a lack of vaccines as child abuse because that approach means that the poor with reduced access would be disproportionately punished. Or minorities who know that the government has used medical practices to experiment on people like them.

A black family who is hesitent because of the Tuskegee experiments should not be treated as abusive for not trusting the US health care system. They have a valid reason to be suspicious. White Karen in the suburbs does not.

Then we get into which ones are necessary and which ones are not. MMR would probably fall under necessary, but what about flu shots? Flu regularly kills over 10k people each year, should that be required for all kids to not be abuse? Should all adults who don't get the flu shot be considered as horrible people?

Someone can be 100% in favor of vaccines and still acknowledge it isn't as cut and dried as 'no vaccines = abuse' or everyone should get every vaccine when even doctors don't recommend that everyone get every single vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I guess I can see where you're coming from. Especially with how hard it is to get a doctor that takes whatever insurance you happen to have from your employer.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

once a baby is born america doesn't care about it any more

[–] stoly 11 points 3 months ago

Sadly children are treated as chattel in the US. Parent’s rights and all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but it would also not surprise me if Facebook’s grubby algorithm will hide such posts from - in this case - CPS employees, to prevent takedown of those very profitable posts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Two people on Facebook just a couple hours ago commented on a post I made that has the word “genocide” in it. I was floored that the mighty algorithms had allowed any human eyes to see that post.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago

Why bother with a doctor at all then

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Try the coroner.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I hear the funeral homes make tiny little coffins.

Dr House.

[–] Tikiporch 22 points 3 months ago

Sadly, many practices don't expell patients whose parents refuse vaccination because money.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

My family lives in Wichita. My niece and nephew are school-aged. People like this put them at risk. Fuck right off.

[–] HowManyNimons 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

like: wtf is going on? These fucking idiots.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 5 points 3 months ago

Weaponized disinformation is what's going on.

[–] Sam_Bass 4 points 3 months ago

They obviously hate themselves too

[–] NABDad 4 points 3 months ago

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