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The comment section is filled with people saying how they should just kick the mods out of the dark Redditβs and take over, ofcourse these posts are heavily upvotedβ¦
Thing is, all the people in favor of the protest left Reddit. So now pro-Reddit content is being upvoted.
This may just an old interwebz man talking, but I'd say "Don't worry."
It's not a 1:1, but this is similar to what happened with Digg in the mid 2000s. I was there. I migrated from there to Reddit - specifically because Digg had decided to ignore its vocal user base and fundamentally change what the site was.
It ultimately resulted in this :
Worth noting that the main migration happened in 2007 and start of 2008, but look how it managed to drag on for another 4 years before really dying.
I think the same will happen here - like there'll be a lot of users on Reddit still, but it'll be heavily corporate controlled and moderated, and most comments will be on the level of "Putin small pp" etc.
I suspect that some of the main subreddits - funny, aww, and pics, for example - could be populated entirely by bots and a lot of people would still browse through them. If you're just idling through looking for a little dopamine, then r/aww and r/pics are kind of like instagram or tiktok. From Reddit's perspective, those are the important subs, where the smaller ones where you can find good discussion and insightful answers don't get enough views to serve enough ads to affect their bottom line.
The scale is so much larger now. Reddit could lose 1m users and its a blip.
Reddit's actual daily users only equates to about half that number. While an interesting metric, Google search rates don't equate to users. Heck, my searching for that information contributed to that and I didn't click through to Reddit once.
Not if the redditors that leave are the ones that do the majority of the moderating and quality posting. If the quality goes way down, people will look elsewhere. Also, I have a feeling we'll see a much bigger migration once the third party apps all die on the 30th.
Well it's going to be dominated by the people that are ok with the changes since the people that weren't left the site.
a lot of them are chatgpt accounts approved by Reddit. Same Reason r/programming went down since many people took notice of it
They can't admit they're addicted. I was a daily Reddit user. Stopped going there once the blackout hits. And now, the subs I care about are still private. Good.
And somehow, I turned out fine.
It took a bit of work to subscribe to enough active communities from different instances to replace Reddit, along with other settings tweaks, but now I'm content with how many threads and comments I am getting.
I had only planned on skipping Reddit for 2 days, but now I'm disgusted enough with the backstabbing that I have a grotty feeling using Reddit. 12 years of daily participation and all of a sudden it's not the same.
I had to move the app from where it usally was and replaced it with jerboa so I can redirect the muscle memory
I caught my husband on reddit yesterday. Went into full attack mode, explained the blackout, and offered to help him switch to Lemmy. Showed him that some if his subs have lems and even tried to sway him with lemmy porn. He didn't care...at all!!! Now, if i want to read anything on reddit i have to go outside or to the bathroom so he doesn't see me.
The users that believed in/supported the protests and are most against the changes are still not there. So you're left with the echo chamber of doom scroll monkeys that need their fix. Quite appropriate for reddit, honestly.
I noticed earlier today that all the top posts were reposts of previous top posts on each main sub.
Like they literally just reposted all the top posts of all time.
That's the kind of thing that is possible when they own it all.
Lots and lots of gold too. Has anyone ever bought it? I have my doubts.
Occam's razor tells me this ain't no AI. Just people who DGAF and want their fun website back.
There are a lot of people who don't hate the mobile app or only use the website and they probably see this blackout as a huge waste of time.
Personally I've moved on. It's time for the Fediverse to take over social media and forums. It really is the future and I'm here for it.
I wish people would just drop it. Do not visit Reddit. The blackouts are meh, to actually be effective, do not visit. No clicks, no views, no content.
Millions of users are about to stop using the platform overnight when they nuke the third party apps. The culture is going to change dramatically no matter what.
People have been saying it but were being ignored for weeks: this blackout thing will not work. And we were correct. It was a useless attempt to try and win over the majority.
Plenty of people use the main app and are the majority of users, and it is what it is. The ones who care about the Reddit API fiasco should move away. Thatβs the only valid move.
Iβve done it, and everyone else who care should. Leave the ones who are fine with Reddit on Reddit.
It's their responses that made me decide to nuke my reddit comments instead of leaving it.
I think this is partially resulting from the bias of people here, who more than likely care about the community involvement aspect of online forums/platforms. If the forum I used to live on 15 years ago was still well trafficked, I likely wouldn't be exploring these spaces the same way.
The reality is that reddit today ISN'T what it was 10 years ago when it killed a lot of forums. It is now a platform, like facebook, that has mass appeal and is going to therefore operate to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Maybe a lot of "redditors" support the strikes, but I'd believe that a majority of people who use reddit don't.
People want their feeds. They want their dopamine. They want their predictable comments and hot gossip. That's what people are in larger groups. That's who reddit is now designed to appeal to.
I think about this kbin/fedithing as a chance to reboot online conversation in an environment that is different than what reddit has become, but I don't expect reddit to change in any way other than to continue to become boring and ad-data driven.
most people dont care, they just want to click on their memes
To be frank, itβs not that people are oblivious, they just donβt give a shit. Who cares, let them not give a shit. Internet communities are only ruined by too many people, this one can continue to exist autonomously and not have to be βnew Redditβ
There are many articles and videos on the subject of bot accounts, it's incredibly easy to hire companies that specialize in organic looking posts and comments meant to sway public opinion.
In the case of Reddit they don't even need them for their own platform, they can just run a script to generate all the comments.
The majority of Reddit's 57m users do not use 3rd party apps. In fact I'd argue most don't (or didn't) even know you could use a 3rd party app or understand why you'd want to. To them Reddit is just the app. So yeah, of course they're not participating in the protest.
I don't expect Reddit to go away or to be adversely impacted by this movement. But I'm not going to worry about what goes on there, similar to how I don't have a FB account and I don't worry about what the 1B other users are doing. I left Reddit for myself, if other people continue to use it then so be it.
I've been on Reddit 14 years. One account. Never used an app. Still used old.reddit til the last.
Deleted all my comments and then my account yesterday.
You're right on the FB thing tho. Did the same thing in 2012. Took a few years for the popularity of "delete your facebook" to catch on, but now the idea that facebook is bad for you is super mainstream compared to 2012.
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Can't expect the millions of people who don't even understand what an API is to care about the API changes. Hell, I didn't use a 3rd party app or really care about the API changes but I've wanted to get into the fediverse and disliked reddit for a long time, so it's as good an excuse as anything.
When all the A+ student's leave (moderators doing the work, people writing good comments), the class goes on, but in a diminished form. It'll be a slow decline.
kbin.social feels lively. Reddit just feels like a mine field of trolls/bots/conspiracies.
I'm shocked by the content I've seen over there. I know quite a few reddit users IRL and none of them support what spez is doing. I think you are right about AI being involved in some if the posts.
It's funny reading posts that say something along the lines of "I've always used the reddit app and it's fine, I didn't even know there were third-party apps". I get this might be astroturfing or bots but if not, congrats on not having a clue, I guess.
I mean, is it out of the realm of possibility that bootlicking comments are those made by Reddit themselves? Comment sections can quickly become echo chambers, I'm sure reddit knows this and uses that to their advantage.
Not to say that there aren't plenty of addicts and general idiots all over reddit.
I hope these people stay there, I like the community that moved to Lemmy/kbin as they are friendly and chill.
From what I've seen with these mass exodus to the fediverse events, this is how it goes. A whole load of people leave $corporate_website, and then get impatient with the fedi-replacement being slow from the sudden spike in traffic. The impatient toxic people go back to $corporate_website, and the friendly chill people stay here.
It's great to see the fediverse growing, but I don't think we actually want to see it become twitter/reddit levels of popular.
The lack of societal solidarity for the betterment of everyone is sad.
But that's ok, reddit was never going to die after this protest.
I think what took place was a successful test of what alternatives exist out in the wild.
Now it's up to those of us who migrated to post through the highs and lows of early adoption in order to encourage others to come and stick around when the next shitty move by Spez takes place.
For example, I migrated to Mastodon in late 2018 during an initial surge. And over the years tried to keep posting content so that when the next migration took place when Elon took the reigns, people were able to possibly feel more at home.
This shit takes time. A lot of time. But the internet is a big place and there's plenty of opportunity for things to be better. We just can expect things to rush themselves
what made the switch easier for me, was installing an RSS feed widget to my desktop and adding lemmy instances to it. gradually, i start to notice topics that interest me more and more which are viewable straight from the rss widget itself and i am able to comment on it, thus i have interacted more on here in the last few days than reddit. though it is still hard not to add :"reddit" to my searches online.
Reddit populated itself with fake accounts early on in its life, so they could be very well doing the same thing again here.
Source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/z4444w/how-reddit-got-huge-tons-of-fake-accounts--2
ps. This is my first comment, does hyperlinking work here?
I'm not entirely convinced that it isn't all mostly bot activity.
Don't worry too much about it. There's still going to be people using Reddit. You're never going to convince everybody about everything. My parents still use Facebook.
