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As students return to college campuses across the United States, administrators are bracing for a resurgence in activism against the war in Gaza.

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[–] toiletobserver 166 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Or, hear me out, we could stop selling things that kill people to people who kill people.

[–] chiliedogg 105 points 3 months ago (2 children)

In Texas, it's actually illegal for a government entity to do business with a company that boycotts Israel. Calls for divestment at UT and other schools can't legally be given any consideration because of our fucked-up state government.

Like: when I evaluate bids for the City, one of the sections I have to fill out by law relates to the bidder's stance on the Israeli government. It's insane.

[–] Hexbatch 28 points 3 months ago

Also from Texas, this has been driving me crazy for years. At least they are now against international law now. Cold comfort

[–] barsquid 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That sounds like a blatant and extreme violation of the First Amendment.

[–] chiliedogg 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes and no.

It's technically a restriction on government, which makes it legally trickier despite being blatantly against the spirit of the first amendment.

[–] barsquid 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Rejecting the bid isn't prosecution," that's some bullshit. Yeah it is against the spirit for sure.

[–] chiliedogg 5 points 3 months ago

It's establishing a state minimum RFB. Just like requiring streets to be designed by PEs limits bidding option from those who are perfectly capable of the job from bidding because they lack the stamp.

So they're being eliminated for not meeting qualifications, not for their speech. Furthermore, they're usually eliminated from consideration by municipal, county, and school governments, who didn't write the rule. So the body that wrote the rule (state) isn't perecuting companies directly.

It creates difficulty in establishing standing to sue. It's the state's rule that limits the authority of the cities, so the anti-Israel companies have no standing to sue the state. But the cities also can't sue the state because they can't show damages caused by the discrimination since there's a thousand other bidders who can do the job.

The assholes in the Texas legislature specialize in drafting discriminatory laws that are difficult to challenge in court.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

...i do a lot of work with texas municipalities and universities and all their standard contracts include a section forbidding us or any of our subconsultants from boycotting israel...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Look. im from europe and even us havent figured that out(even in the not genocidal countries) but at least we dont send them money and weapons for FREE. At least our countries sell the weapons to genocidal countries.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Thats almost the entirety of the US GDP. We're three weapons manufacturers in a trench coat pretending to be a government.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 months ago

Keep the kids from speaking out. Definitely a good look...

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Revoking the right to question the war, that's awesome. It's cool to violate 1st Amendment rights when the good guys do it!

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[–] whotookkarl 69 points 3 months ago

Because removing people's ability to peacefully protest and demonstrate has gone so well in the past and not escalated to less peaceful activity. /s

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (7 children)

the us isnt looking like a democracy

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[–] hark 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So this is the freedom of speech that the US prides itself on?

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 8 points 3 months ago

We love talking about giving everyone democracy. We just do it at the point of a gun. You’ll take our democracy and like it.

Now we’re pointing those guns internally more often.

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[–] michaelmrose 15 points 3 months ago

signs cannot be displayed on university property without prior approval.

Fuck No

limits on the use of amplified sound

Fuck YES

[–] Hexbatch 12 points 3 months ago

The only thing that can stop an absolute mess on campuses is a cease fire that allows in food and medicine .

These rules are from hopeful admins this week

[–] PopShark 6 points 3 months ago

Anyone else thinking about Ukraine right now? I am.

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