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Rules of Use for Bots (self.lemmyworld)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by MrCenny to c/lemmyworld
 

As we see more and more bots on Lemmy World every day, it’s about time we publish a set of rules for bots and bot-owners.

So here goes:

  • Bots shall not be used for any kind of advertising.

  • The bot accounts must be clearly marked as a bot. Both in the bio and by marking the account as a bot.

  • The owner of the bot and contact details must be mentioned in the bot’s bio.

  • Bots are only allowed to post in communities they have the explicit permission from the community’s owners to do so.

  • Bots from other instances that post in Lemmy World communities must follow the same rules.

  • Bots shall not just be posting Reddit content.

  • Bots shall not be “spammy”, as in multiple posts per minute.

  • Breaking any of these rules will result in a ban for the Bot and, if required, its owner.

  • Commands must use the bots mention as prefix, and not a text prefix like !help

These rules will be updated when needed.

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[–] miles 176 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Good stuff 👍 Right now you’re using “can” and “should” which are somewhat vague. What happens if bots don’t do something they should?

Consider clarifying requirements using the following RFC-style language: "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL".

ref: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2119

[–] antik 163 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] LilDumpy 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MrCenny 86 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Done. Thanks for the tip ❤️

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[–] Anti_Weeb_Penguin 128 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"Bots shall not be used for any kind of advertising" Extremely based

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[–] JJROKCZ 56 points 11 months ago (20 children)

What about bots that exist to respond to certain words in comments like the many lotrmemes bots and wandering dwarf miner for deep rock galactic. I’m sure they’re getting close to several a minute depending on comment traffic on those instances, if this place ever gets Reddit size they’ll definitely be doing several per minute

[–] Lemmylefty 84 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The admins could throttle those bots down to reasonable posting levels and the meta around it could go from expecting an instant response to being “graced by their presence”. Something something art from adversity something something..

We don’t have to be a direct copy of Reddit, after all.

[–] danc4498 56 points 11 months ago (8 children)

We don't have to be a direct copy of Reddit, after all.

What I don't like about statements like this is that it ignores the fact that Reddit was just an interface for people to produce content and experiences that they wanted.

We are on Lemmy because we want a different interface, not because we want different content/experiences.

If Lemmy is a direct copy of Reddit, it is because the people want it to be.

[–] SheeEttin 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I'm on Lemmy because I want a different owner, not a different interface. I liked old reddit just fine. I left due to the monetization of the community.

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[–] Carnelian 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Perhaps they could simply be rate limited to once every 60 seconds, and abandon some comments if the traffic is too high?

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[–] Izzy 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

So that bot that goes around saying peoples lemmy links are wrong is against the rules.

https://lemmy.world/c/sciencefiction

[–] Oursunisdying 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The link-fixer-bot is really useful on mobile, I hope they can make an exception for this one.

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[–] FlyingSquid 42 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Excellent. Bots can be helpful, but they should be few in number. Some of them would drive me crazy on Reddit. Like that stupid 'water is not wet' bot.

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[–] Cybermass 41 points 11 months ago

Love the bots no just reposting links to Reddit, I fucking hate that

[–] rcmaehl 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Hi @[email protected] @[email protected],

I'm planning on launching a service soon that will allow users to quickly and easily create+run lemmy bots similar to automod. I've posted about it on the Lemmy Matrix before, but is there a best place to contact you all to ensure that as I open pandora's box, everyone is ready?

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[–] shotgun_crab 33 points 11 months ago (12 children)

I think we should prioritize useful bots over funny bots. Funny bots are fine if they comment on rare occasions, like the one that tells you when all the words on your comment are in alphabetical order. Also, having bots that react to specific commands is better imo.

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[–] Dingus93 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] ChatGPT 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

How do I label myself as a bot?

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[–] dan1101 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bots are only allowed to post in communities they have the explicit permission from the community’s owners to do so.

This one might be tough for people. But yeah these rules are very reasonable.

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[–] Aux 23 points 11 months ago

Great rules! Bots are vital, but can quickly become a disaster.

[–] capr 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

1 - What if the bot is simply advertising c/ommunities which are relevant to the content at hand? I remember there was a popular bot on Reddit which did this. I think it simply linked to other subreddits where the content was shared.

7 - What if we get a moderation bot like Reddit's u/AutoModerator?

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[–] TeaHands 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Rule 4 seems like it would be an auto-ban for those bots that are going round correcting links or giving alternatives to YouTube and whatnot, since they post in whatever community they detect an infraction from.

Is my reading of that correct?

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[–] WhoRoger 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Personally I'm mostly annoyed by bots (especially those that make new posts), but people here have raised good questions.

Like regarding those bots that provide corrected links - is there an amputator-bot yet? - or automods...

[–] CaspianXI 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I schedule regular posts to a community I moderate. Is this considered bot activity? I use a cron job/python script to log into my account and post something I manually wrote.

[–] MrCenny 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I would consider this as bot activity. I would recommend to create a bot account for this, to further clarify that this was automated in some way.

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[–] dmmeyournudes 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So no save video, remind me, or un-amp bots? These rules basically only allow for recurring post bots, nothing more complicated.

[–] Rooki 25 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Save video is uselesss as videos can be downloaded directly.

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