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[–] [email protected] 102 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I love that I don’t care about Reddit news anymore. “Spez made a new sub you have to suck his dick to join.” Don’t care. Haven’t in a long time.

[–] Kaavi 39 points 4 months ago

I'm glad you have not sucked his dick in a long time 🥳

[–] [email protected] 98 points 4 months ago (7 children)

What's really baffling to me is that a bunch of nerds with too much free time on their hands basically stomped out a fully fledged Reddit alternative within a few months, including multiple frontends and apps.

Yet Reddit spends millions on development every year, for no discernable improvement whatsoever, while still turning no profit.

Where is all that money going? Seriously, Reddit is a very simple site. There's nothing that hard about it. The amount of data is tiny, since the content is external, none of the resources are that time critical, a lot of content can be cached.

What are the devs doing all day?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago

Lemmy wasn't made in a few months. However development increased a lot once the api war started.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

stomped out a fully fledged Reddit alternative within a few months, including multiple frontends and apps.

what/who are you referring to? the reddit ceo or reddit users?

[–] april 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are referring to the lemmy developers

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The confusion for me was that when I stomp something out, it dies. That's not the intended verb here, but context clues alone do not a language make.

[–] Tudsamfa 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mistranslation of the German Idiom "(etwas) aus dem Boden Stampfen", to create (something) from nothing (lit. to stomp (something) out of the ground).

Easy mistake for bilinguals to make, I was convinced it was an English Idiom as well until I looked it up.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where exactly do you think you're writing this?

[–] Donjuanme 7 points 4 months ago

You mean stamped out, stomped implies extinguishing, stamped means mass production of some sort.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The ideas leading to Lemmy go back at least a decade, that I can remember. There are many little things that people figured out when developing distributed federated social media networks of this type. It's a success story of collaboration over a long time with a shared goal of making Reddit and Twitter easy to replace with a superior product.

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[–] SimplyChad 67 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Come to Lemmy for the hatred of Spez’s actions Stay for the certainty he’ll do it again

[–] flicker 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There was a while there where people were constantly coming to Lemmy to talk about reddit and I just... couldn't give a fuck.

I feel like it might be an age thing. Those of us on the internet since the 90s are somewhat used to being digital nomads.

[–] Apepollo11 21 points 4 months ago

We've seen empires burn to the ground so many times before.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Deleted my account just now and jumped to lemmy. Wondering why I didn't sooner.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago

This is just the latest in a long string. Spez has demonstrated repeatedly throughout the years that he's an entitled cretin - equal parts smug and ignorant.

My personal favorite was when he snidely commented on Reddit's unprofitability in his AMA after the API debacle, making it sound as if it was somehow our fault, only to then not only have it made common knowledge that the official app was useless garbage and had been for years, but that the entirety of Reddit's loss for the year was just about exactly equal to his salary alone.

[–] Arbiter 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This really goes to show he has no clue how to monetize Reddit.

[–] julysfire 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I used Reddit for 12 years, which granted, isn't as long as some others, but it is really sad to see what it has become after all these years. It helped a lot back in the day, but now it is time to let it go.

[–] aquinteros 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

it was sad for me too. I haven't looked back since they banned 3rd party apps, it was time to let it go

[–] julysfire 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Since they killed RIF, in the shittest way possible, my usage went down significantly. I still miss RIF

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[–] Donjuanme 12 points 4 months ago

I hopped on Reddit the week before the Digg migration happened. I'm not sure how I really took in the Internet before that (lolcats and wimp mostly), but I remember nearly the exact moment it happened. I'd never heard of Digg before that. I'd barely heard of Reddit.

It's not the same as it was back then, and I'm very happy to be done with it. Fuck spez/Steve Huffman, that piece of shit burned everything to the ground to enrich himself and piss on the community.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I think we should stop with copium every time some change happens on Reddit.

It's not going anywhere and it's still the front page of the Internet. A few thousand folks migrating to Lemmy doesn't mean Reddit is gonna die tomorrow.

And the CEO knows that perfectly well. Spez can juice this place more and more, and people, for the most part, will eat that and stay after a tiny show of discontent.

You know what? That might be for the better. While it sucks to have less content here, we at Lemmy also have a healthier demographic, and that's something we should praise and look after.

If anything, at our best we should not spend our energy shitting on Reddit, but rather direct it to care for Lemmy. Start your cozy or important community and share it! Make new interesting posts, preferably not about Reddit or American politics - plenty of that in here. Leave useful and/or supportive comments. We can for once build our beautiful garden, not a place of powerless hate and spite.

[–] Lizardking27 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's not "copium", reddit is genuinely heavily populated by bots, advertisers, and sponsored content. There aren't nearly as many actual people using it as before. I'm not saying they all came here, but reddit is definitely not "the front page of the internet" anymore, and hasn't been since long before the api exodus occurred.

Nobody talks about reddit in daily conversation like insta, tiktok, youtube, or even facebook. The majority of people on the internet do not know it exists. It's a weird, niche website desperately failing to claw it's way to the mainstream, when the whole charm of it was that it wasn't mainstream social media.

However, I agree that I'd like to stop hearing about it here.

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[–] big_slap 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

While it sucks to have less content here, we at Lemmy also have a healthier demographic, and that's something we should praise and look after.

yes, say it louder for the people in the back!!

quality > quantity, and my interactions on the fediverse, compared to reddit, are so much more fruitful 😁

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[–] davidgro 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If they had just done the obvious thing and made ad-free 3rd party API access depend on a subscription fee, then I would have just paid it and wouldn't be here. But no, they have to do everything the worst way possible.

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[–] AndrewZabar 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I agree! After my initial fury over Spez's whole tantrum, I found Lemmy, and I gotta say, yeah I really do think we need a lot more communities and diverse topics, but for those of us who remember what the Usenet was early on, it was a paradise for free-thinking, tech-savvy individuals to socialize and share ideas. I'd love to see Lemmy stay under the radar, because once something becomes popular enough, it gets enshittified by people looking to monetize and people looking to just plain shit all over it. If it remains fairly small, but in that it is a concentration of the most desirable people (mostly), I'll take it. I can always hop over to dread-it if I really need something not here.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Capitalism is like Dog-strangling vine or swallowroot

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wasn't there always a pay-walled subreddit, made by the community? I think you had to have had gold/premium to get invited.

[–] Noodle07 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The lounge, don't worry it wasn't interesting

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they also already scrape that when they rebrand "gilding" to multi-tier award? Idk it's been years since i first got into there.

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[–] veganpizza69 14 points 4 months ago

Good, bury reddit.

[–] PunchingWood 13 points 4 months ago

Can't say I'm sad.

I got permabanned on Reddit because of events involving powertripping moderators and every appeal I tried has been met only with generic bot auto replies. It seems impossible to get an actual human to look at my case for which I provided a lot of detail on what went wrong and how I was incorrectly permabanned (I was confronting moderators of one of my favorite subs about them violating their own Subreddit and Reddit's policy).

I've been trying for over 9 months but there's literally no way to get it fixed. And every new account eventually gets permabanned as well.

I'm so done with that garbage platform. Shame about the small fun communities I was in. But the downfall of Reddit can't come soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

I've officially said my goodbyes. It's absolutely fucked over there. This is just one of many serious problems with Reddit. The CEO is tanking it harder than Musk tanked Twitter. He's musk'd it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is there a way to fully download or scrape a full subreddit or say stackoverflow since they've both committed themselves to enshittification and alienating their userbases?

asking because that seems difficult to do and there's a lot of useful information on both sites

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Its not super hard, but the main hurdle will by bypassing whatever api limits there are such as by using multiple accounts

Certain libraries like praw still work to some extent (my discord bot is still running somehow) but trying to scrape all of the posts in a sub might have to be done slowly. You might be able to sort by old so that the results dont move relative to the page and then go page by page.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

*laughs in Lemmy

[–] Blink8 8 points 4 months ago

Well, here we are, he's surely winning at that

[–] MediaSensationalism 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reddit getting rid of paid rewards pre-IPO only to reintroduce the feature later on and boast it as a major QOQ increase in non-ad revenue while artificially inflating their on-paper growth was slick.

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[–] Casual_Harper 7 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I went back to reddit after being away for six years and I'm already done with the mods, the toxicity, the fakeness, just the whole thing. So here I am.

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