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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (5 children)

heh. This reminds me of electric cars. I've been happily driving one for 9 years.

Lots of people online and in person tell me "Electric cars aren't there yet. They won't work." Well, you must be correct then. I just handed down my first EV to my kid and bought a second one.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Battery situation could be better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Sodium batteries seem promising, though density is lower than Lithium.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who says electric cars aren't there are making inaccurate statements at best and at worst are telling non-factual ones. The truth isn't that electric cars aren't ready, is that the energy distribution isn't ready. Only urbanized areas are prepared to offer that much energy at scale and living in an urbanized area you shouldn't need a personal vehicle for most of your travels anyway.

Side note, this is why I think plug-in-hybrids are the baby step we need to achieve first. Even with their obvious flaws they fill the gap between an internal combustion engine and full electric.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I bought a PHEV back in June (Ford Escape), have driven 1500 miles since and have yet to add any gas. For most daily trips the battery gets me there and back without using any gas. I love it and am excited for full EV for my next vehicle.

[–] OutsizedWalrus -1 points 3 months ago

It’s all situational.

My wife could absolutely rock an EV for her 3 mile drive.

However, for road trips we don’t have enough charger coverage where we live, so alas we have an ICE

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

When is the last time you drove either down an unpaved washboarded road for 30 hours one way without any charging locations, and then back, and how did it fare? Also let me know how it works at -45 C.

I'm sure it works well for suburban/city streets, doubtful it works well for the above.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'd be curious to know the stats of how many driving trips are done in cities vs your washboard example.

[–] Feathercrown 8 points 3 months ago

Well, "30 hours" disqualifies >50% of trips, because most trips are under 3 miles.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying it's not a good option for the majority of people, I'm saying that there are definite use cases for gas vehicles which electric vehicles cannot fulfill at this time. The majority of my trips are short and are in a city, however if I had an electric vehicle, I'd be fucked the 2 times a year I have to make a drive like that because you can't carry batteries for an electric car like you can carry gas cans, and they won't be building charging stations in the middle of federally protected natural reserves. Furthermore, there are definite problems with electric vehicle range in low temperatures even for travel within a city. If electric vehicles met those requirements I'd be buying one immediately, but as it stands, a gas vehicle is simply more capable and is a better value when it comes to the money as a result.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Renting a gas powered vehicle could be an option for the two times a year needed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

It's the same argument when discussing why people need a pickup truck as their daily driver for the one time a year they need to haul a trailer or move a couch. When faced with the possibility of switching from a half-ton to a sedan, suddenly everybody needs to carry their refrigerator with them everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Valid counterpoint.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When does something become mainstream? The Steam Deck has sold millions of units.

[–] someguy3 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Steam deck 2 with 1080p that can be (better) output to a TV.

[–] foggenbooty 5 points 3 months ago

We'd need a suitably powerful APU upgrade in order to make running a 1080p screen viable. Most of the reason the Steam Deck performs as well as it does is because games are only rendering at 720p.

My wishlist for a Deck V2 would be a

  • Higher res screen (if it makes sense as I mentioned above)
  • Higher refresh with VRR (partially handled by thr OLED 90hz but no VRR)
  • Second USB-C port supporting USB4
  • Fingerprint reader
  • QoL improvements like smaller bezel, modern wireless chipset, etc.

AND a Steam Controller v2 as a companion with the exact same buttons/sticks/touchpads as the Deck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

you thinking like, mini hdmi port directly in the chassis? or just an hdmi to usb-c adapter in every box?

also have you seen the aftermarket screen upgrade? it looks great, but apparently the (already kinda slim) battery life really suffers. I’m still very tempted hahaha

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

@cordlessterry This is what I’ve found recently. For years I stuck with Windows basically for gaming and no other reason. Finally threw in the towel a couple weeks ago and installed Zorin OS, expecting a massive uphill battle to get my games to work. Instead, it was just … fine. The most I’ve had to do is change the compatibility settings on a couple of games in Steam to use Proton Experimental.

[–] EvolvedTurtle 9 points 3 months ago

Linux has been ready for a while now It's gaming that isn't ready

[–] WeebLife 8 points 3 months ago

Just dual boot and call it good.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I could have sworn the last panel in this meme said "Stop having fun". Mandela effect?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There are two versions of this meme drawn in almost the same artstyle. Here's the one this meme is based on, which says "quit having fun":

This is in fact a redraw of an XKCD cartoon which is one panel and thus harder to make memes out of which says "stop having fun":

It's not just you.

[–] Feathercrown 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Mandela effect. It's always been Quit. Stop just sounds more natural

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Feathercrown 1 points 3 months ago

Ooh that's an old one, nice find

[–] brucethemoose 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I still have to keep Windows around for (ironically) performance reasons.

Some sim games like Rimworld and Stellaris just have a big hit on linux for me, native or Proton. And in a sim game, that means slow turns and stutters you can't avoid instead of slightly lesser graphics. And it's not sublte, native stellaris is like a good 30%-40% slower with even higher spikes last time I benched them back to back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Not being able to play Valorant and Siege is a good thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I do find the steam deck is kind of buggy, at least for my use cases (usually docked, mostly used for emulation, and so on). But I'm thrilled that it exists, so I'm trying to support it as much as possible.

[–] fishos 1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

You can literally say the exact same thing with Windows. That's how you Linux peeps feel, constantly yelling "why are you using windows! Stop having fun!"

Is windows perfect? Nah. But does it work most the time? Yeah. All the bitching about windows being shit and yet my 300+ installed games all work..... Crazy....

How about just let people use what they like and shut up with the damn "my OS is better than yours" nonsense?

It's posts like this, that even though I've used Linux in the past, make me immediately think "nah, fuck that, I'll stick to windows. I don't want to deal with those people."

You're more of a harm than help.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'll stick to windows. I don't want to deal with those people."

That's a strange conclusion to come to, installing an OS doesn't come with the obligation to deal with anyone.

I like to play games on Steam but that doesn't mean I have to deal with the atrocity that is the Steam forums.

[–] Feathercrown 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Until you need tech support from a forum

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Oh, being annoying to casual user makes them anti to whatever we promote.

The keyword is being moderate and helpful. Not forceful or annoying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The irony of posting this meme with a title telling other people how to have fun is just perfect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

my OS is better than yours

heavy "btw i use arch" vibes

[–] Feathercrown 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Immutable distros are the new arch

[–] Bluefruit 2 points 3 months ago

I'm def a windows hater but i dont fault people for using it. Most folks arent gonna know how to install a diffrent os or even want to if what they have already works.

Use what you like and what works.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'd say around half of the games I play on Linux require some kind of special launch script, specific Wine version, or even different versions of Steam to run properly. It's nowhere near as simple as people make it out to be.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

You must have an odd selection of games. For me, 90% of the time I just click play on Steam and it works.

[–] stupidcasey 6 points 3 months ago

IDK man, I was sticking with windows strictly for gaming purposes but ever since I got my steam deck I haven’t had a single problem and any inconvenience is grossly outweighed by windows GD updates and halting the entire system to show an ad… on my $150 copy of windows…. I’m not saying every game will play that’s just objectively wrong but I am saying you either won’t notice or will easily find something that does work, also I don’t think people pay attention to how much tinkering it takes to get older windows games to work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Different versions of Steam? What the fuck are you on about? You must be making your Linux gaming harder than it has to be. I've done all sorts of weird shit to install games and mods on Linux but I have never even seen an installation guide that requires somehow creating a different version of Steam.

Even with launch scripts and wine versions Lutris usually covers almost every game I've wanted to install. Lutris makes setting up right scripts and wine versions as easy as it is to install runtimes on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I'm genuinely curious what game needs a different version of Steam.