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The vice president's campaign says she has won the nomination, but the results will not be official until Monday.

Vice President Kamala Harris has won enough delegate votes to secure the Democratic presidential nomination, Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison announced Friday, though the results are not yet official.

The DNC will not make an official announcement of results until Monday evening, when the virtual voting process closes for delegates to next month’s Democratic National Convention.

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[–] FlyingSquid 93 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If anyone wants to know why they didn't wait until the DNC: Ohio has made the really shitty decision to attempt to fuck over the Democrats by requiring all candidates to be on the ballot by August 7th. They didn't let Ohio fuck them over.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just want to highlight how shitty Ohio is being here because FlyingSquid isn't technically correct. Ohio has made the decision to extend the timeline... in a law that will take effect after the current deadline passes which is almost certainly an effort to rug-pull the new rules in the window between those two dates.

Ohio is being a bunch of fucking ass hats and everybody absolutely needs to know it.

[–] FlyingSquid 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I didn't know about that part. And I thought it couldn't get any more blatantly manipulative.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

No worries, if you're curious here's an article that delves into some of the awfulness involved:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/youre-arguing-with-a-blogger-nate-silver-throws-down-with-dnc-chair-over-using-ohio-deadline-to-accelerate-biden-nomination/

Specifically:

Citing the Ohio Constitution, Harrison explained the law signed by Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine to extend the deadline to August 31 doesn’t take effect until September 1, making the original August 7 deadline still applicable.

[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thanks. Checking it out. DeWine is such a piece of shit. The only thing I can say being next door in Indiana is at least Holcomb isn't DeWine.

That said, our AG is a fucking monster.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thankfully in America there are always more awful awfuls... at least you don't have Missouri's AG.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

As a Missourian, I was about to suggest this same thing. Fuck that guy.

[–] billiam0202 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mean Andrew Bailey, the AG trying to keep an innocent man in prison?

You know what's really disgusting? That these two are such big shitheads I know who they are by name, and I don't live in either state.

[–] Maggoty 3 points 3 months ago

Two people. And tried to get a death row appeal summarily closed so they could execute him faster.

[–] billiam0202 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That said, our AG is a fucking monster.

Surely you're not calling Todd Rokita, the AG who is trying to punish a doctor for performing a legal abortion on an 11-year-old rape victim because she couldn't get one in Ohio, a monster, are you?

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 3 months ago

That's like the tip of the iceberg when it comes to all the horrible things about Todd Rokita. But that is certainly one of the many.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 3 months ago

The vox article they cite is far more informative.

Apparently they actually sent instructions to the elections office that September 1 is the new deadline this year. The DNC's argument is essentially, they don't trust Ohio not to rescind those instructions or get a court order interpreting the extension to be a dead letter.

[–] Maggoty 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair Ohio has had an early August deadline for something like a decade? They've just always passed an extension. Because both parties have busted that deadline at times.

This time they are specifically choosing to try and screw with the democrats.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

At this point, trusting the Republicans on anything would be a mistake.

[–] uberdroog 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Just so you know, Faux Spews and conservatives on twatter are very concerned that Democrats' freedom of choice is being trampled on. There was a coup to oust Biden and the "deep state" just appointed Kamala. I mean yeah but also..nah. a little introspection too, my gosh.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

An historic moment: Fox News suddenly gives a shit about Democrats’ freedom of choice

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

We never had the choice to begin with

[–] hamFoilHat 1 points 3 months ago

I didn't think Biden was going to make it another 4 years. I knew what I was voting for and I think most people did.

[–] reddig33 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I wonder who the hold outs are. And why.

[–] dhork 24 points 3 months ago

There may not be many holdouts, since it is virtual they are doing it all in a strict order and giving delegations more time than they usually do at the convention. It could be that they just got to the point in the roll call where they have enough votes for Harris to get the majority.

I read somewhere that since no other candidate met the requirements to be considered, no other candidate is involved. People who don't vote for Harris will have to vote "Present".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Were there any states that held primaries where Biden didn’t win?

[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No. He didn't even win by any sort of thin margin.

The closest anyone even got to him was Dean Phillips got 19% in New Hampshire. I guess he spent his entire time campaigning there. Even state with the highest 'uncommitted' protest votes only got those up to 29.1%.

Some people here really don't like it, but Biden was going to be the nominee. So I'm glad he ended up dropping out and it's going to be Harris instead because it sure as hell wasn't going to be Dean Phillips.

(I will say that if you include American Samoa in this, Jason Palmer got 56% of the vote.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Major_candidates

I've never heard of Jason Palmer before, but I can guess where he inexplicably spent the majority of his time campaigning.

[–] grue 2 points 3 months ago

(I will say that if you include American Samoa in this, Jason Palmer got 56% of the vote.)

You probably shouldn't, since American Samoans are "non-citizen US nationals" and can't vote in the Presidential general election anyway.

[–] dhork 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have to give Dean Phillips some credit, he probably saw that Biden was starting to show his age and at least tried to get some attention on it. The debate was the tipping point for many (I know it was for me). If we had a debate earlier in the process then maybe we all could have come to this conclusion sooner.

[–] FlyingSquid 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, dropping out this late was kind of a genius move, even if it was unintentional. The Trump campaign is twisting in the wind. They were all in to fight Biden. Now it's an old man against a woman who isn't young, but also doesn't look 59, and is clearly just far more intelligent and far more just cognitively able than Trump.

And the best attack Trump has been able to come up with is "she turned black all of a sudden." Which he said to a bunch of black people.

[–] teft 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

a woman who isn’t young, but also doesn’t look 59

Right? Kamala looks like she's mid 40s. She's aging pretty good.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 3 months ago

Not to stereotype, but people say "black don't crack" for a reason.

[–] njm1314 1 points 3 months ago

You're giving way too much credit to the piece of shit that is Dean Phillips.

[–] Orbituary 1 points 3 months ago

The "uncommitted" who withheld nominations for Biden on the grounds that we are supporting Israel's genocide of Palestine.

[–] sramder 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Huh… so… huh. Really thought this was done like, last week 🤔

[–] the_tab_key 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is the official tally.

[–] sramder 2 points 3 months ago

Ah! Thank you for clarifying. Feels better knowing I didn’t completely space out. I’m glad it’s official :-)