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I just got invited to a meeting for a time zone that doesn't exist this time of year. In the US EST does not stand for Eastern time, it stands for Eastern Standard Time (~November-~March), EST is not an active time zone, it is EDT Eastern Daylight Time. Its a pointless thing, most people probably don't notice, but its wrong.

Fake internet points to anyone who knows why DB-9 bothers me.

Edit: corrected a missing n in an eastern

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

People who refuse to change how they misuse or misspell words. To/too, could’ve/could of, brake/break, and all that. I know they’ve read the correct versions, they just refuse to change.

Followed by people trying to justify the misuse. We have dictionaries. There’s some kind of standard. Yes, language does drift. But unless we want to go back to the 1600’s or so where people just made up whatever looked right for spelling, there should be some effort in maintaining a standard and not just “I can’t be bothered to do it right so I’ll claim common usage or language drift.”

That, and people who drive with their hazard flashers on for no apparent reason whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I see this fairly often for other two languages*, but the reasoning is the same.

The "language drifts" argument is actually fallacious (is-ought fallacy). In my opinion the main reasons to be lenient towards deviations from the standard are:

  1. Unless heavily overdone, they don't affect comprehension.
  2. They reinforce the informal register, and the register itself helps to convey meaning.
  3. They allow individual expression, doubly so when the misspelling has dialectal marks.
  4. A standard is just a standard. It should be seen as a reference, not as encompassing everything that is allowed within a language and its spelling.

*and I use it, at least in my L1. In my case it's typically due to #3.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I’ll concede points for stylistic or deliberately informal language, I didn’t want to belabor anyone reading what I wrote to get into the weeds over deliberate “abuse” of the language to convey whatever the author wishes to. There’s certainly room for slang, too.

I’m much more pointing the finger at the more simple things that can be corrected easily, hence the minor irritation, not someone willfully knowing they’re using an informal register. IOW, “could have” to “could’ve” to “coulda” is decreasing formality order, and deliberate, vs “could of” which appears completely unaware of how the words actually work. Break/brake isn’t even comparable. Completely different words. Plenty of room on that one for autocorrect to mess it up though. IMO there’s a difference.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

With voice to text becoming more common homonyms are going to become the de facto standard. All of the there there and their confusion, will be too too much, not to mention it's it's and it's.....

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You forgot “its”.

Should I add “people loudly using voice to text to SMS in public places” to my list of annoyances?

E: you conveniently fell into my second paragraph. Maybe we could improve voice to text contextual translation so that homonyms don’t happen so often rather than yet another “can’t be bothered to fix it” excuse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All the voice2 text I’ve used gets these all right, by context. Better than many people.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When you have a dispenser (liquid soap, sanitizer gel, shampoo, etc.) and it's almost empty, so the damn bottle gets knocked over from the slightest nudge. Makes me so irrationally mad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My partner leaves his drink bottle near the sink, empty or mostly empty.

I accidentally knock that fucker over at least twice a day. I move it to a different part of the kitchen where it's very unlikely to get accidentally knocked, he knows the spot so it's not like I've hidden it or inconvenienced him.

But he puts it back next to the fucking sink and I knock it over and it makes so much fucking noise and scares the dog and I have to stop what I'm doing to go pick it up, just in case it does have a bit of water in it and creates a slip hazard, and it's going to be the reason I suffocate him in his sleep.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

For a bit the stuff inside will keep the COG low enough that its somewhat stable, but at some point it just stops being worth it. It also seems to last forever.

[–] FederatedSaint 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Certain mispronunciations, such as when someone mispronounces "escape" as "excape," "moot" as "mute," "etcetera" as "excetera," and finally "supposedly" as "supposably."

[–] mcqtom 6 points 4 months ago

Supposably gets me. I'm also unnecessarily annoyed by "besides the point" and "anyways".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I live somewhere that all of this is common language. It drives me fucking crazy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Pointless? The most pointless thing that aggravates me?

Mowing grass.

It's not solving the problem. At all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It annoys me more when other people care.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

My wife's car has a emergency brake PADEL (not pedal) on the dashboard that is connected on one end and you can push down on the other end or loop your finger under the padel and pull up (like a button version of a diving board). You push it to turn on the Emergency Brake, and once on, you pull it to turn it off. But what if it's off and you pull it? Nothing. If it's on and you push it? Nothing. This button takes 2 inputs but depending on its current state only 1 input will do anything. It's bad UI/UX in the real world.

Here's a stock photo of the kind of button but in a different car than my wife's.

[–] mcqtom 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course you are welcome to be annoyed by whatever you want but I think I kind of agree with this design... Regardless of what state the car is in, you always know that if you push that button, the car should now be in park. If you're a dum dum like most of us, and you forget whether you've done it already or not, you don't need to check the dash or anything to decide whether to push it or not, you can just do it. It's like saving twice in a Pokemon game. I like that it's two distinct gestures, but compressed down into one mechanism.

However, I'm not sure I like that it's push to engage and pull to disengage. In my car I'm pretty sure it's pull to engage and push to disengage, which reminds me of the old lever style of parking brake.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Truth is, I made up which way was which because nothing about this push-pull paddle expresses which direction is which action and I can never remember. Every time I interact with it is a guess. Do it one way, if I was wrong then do it the other. I'm onboard with idempotency but I feel this trades clarity for it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I think that's actually good UX from a safety standpoint. It means the button is "idempotent": doing an operation the first time puts it in a state, and then doing it again leaves it still in that state.

If you're in a moment of panic and want the brake on, you might push the button a bunch of times in quick succession to "be sure." If it were a regular button, this would rapidly toggle it on and off, which would leave it in an uncertain state after you pressed it so fast. This way it turns on and stays active until you are ready to turn it off, and then you do another idempotent operation to turn it off. I don't think all buttons should be like this, but I think it's a good design decision for a button used in an "emergency."

[–] Rexxiter 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does it pointlessly annoy you as much as you saying EDT stands for EASTER Daylight Time pointlessly annoys me?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I'm bad at typing, I though I caught all of those, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People who walk into a building and then just stop and stand in front of the door.

People who stop and chat in the grocery store, blocking the entire aisle.

People who pull out or merge into your lane right in front of you in traffic, slow down hella, and then immediately change lanes just to be first or save 0.3ms.

People with obnoxiously loud vehicles.

People.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

People... That could be a problem, there are a lot of them.

[–] perviouslyiner 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

because it's DE-9?

Bonus points for anyone who knows why VGA bothers you...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

You win some points.

I really dislike that some companies even call out they do it wrong because of momentum. It is not an arbitrary name. Its a d-subminiature shell e low density with 9 pins. A B shell has a low density size of 25. They're different things.

[–] Stern 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a place by me called Ranch Pizza and they do not have ranch pizzas. They have pizzas. They have ranch. They do not have pizza with a ranch base however.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that doesn't sound like they lying though.

[–] Stern 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I feel like if you're calling yourself Ranch Pizza, you're beholden to having it on the menu. They aren't called Ranch and Pizza after all.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

The "open" in "OpenAI", I know about the origins but currently...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Changing the clock every daylight savings time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its Daylight Saving (no s) Time. And I am firmly on the side of standard time year round; I'm a morning person.

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[–] motor_spirit 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

seeing "whoa" as "woah" has never sat right with me

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Same...... except the other way round.

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[–] motor_spirit 4 points 4 months ago

I had to walk out of work after that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Its a pointless thing

‎ಠ_ಠ

But no, it's not a pointless thing. Because people will say that something occurs in one particular time zone, and I'll convert it under that assumption. Only for them to then turn around and blame me for being an hour late because they said standard time when they meant daylight time. Time communications should always be done in UTC first, with other time zones giving as optional extras, specified in terms of their UTC offset explicitly, alongside their name.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Because the connector you think of as DB-9 is ackschually a DE-9 connector. A DB-9 connector would somehow be the width of those 25-pin parallel port connectors, but holding only 9 pins.

D is for D-subminiature
Second letter is the connector housing size (A through E)
The number is the amount of pins.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

ackschually a DB-9 connector has no meaning as low and high density pin counts are specified for the d-sub series, and db-9 is an impossible combination.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People typing "ahahahah" instead of "hahahaha".

[–] Dicska 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about others, but to me they are both appropriate ways to express laughter, just two different kinds. I would use ahah for schadenfreude.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Many things annoy me..

Slow walking people.

Twats on electric scooters weaving through traffic.

Drivers not using their indicators.

These are just a few things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My slow pace is still faster than slow walkers.

Where I am, the scooters are not supposed to be on normal sidewalks, and seem annoyed your using the sidewalk.

IF YOU USED YOUR SIGNAL WE WOULD HAVE BOTH GONE FASTER!

The left lane is for passing, I really don't care how fast or slow you are going, if your not passing somebody GET OVER!

anyway, you might have struck a few nerves.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People who say no to something instead of no thank you. Someone offered my CW a tart one day and she said "no I don't like those" instead of just "no thanks". Why not just the extra half step to be polite?

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[–] grogreen 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I 2nd mowing grass, my dad called lawns green cancer and I agree

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not pronouncing the "h" in "herb". Or the "l" in "solder".

Also, two spaces after a full stop. I thought we stopped doing that in the '90s. And the Internet had killed it off, because HTML just won't display more than one space. But more recently, some platforms have started actually showing multiple spaces again. It just looks so damn wrong.

Oh, and one that occurred to me as a result of writing that previous paragraph. When people write "90's" to refer to the decade of the '90s. Misuse of apostrophes in general, but particularly when it's after a number, acronym, or letter. Mind your Ps and Qs, not P's and Q's.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

"t" in mortgage

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