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Fire Memes for Traitor Haters

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Where we meme (joking in tone and detail, serious in sentiment) about General Sherman, the Civil War, and how the secesh traitors had it coming.

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  1. No bigotry. The Union, or at least the part of the Union WE support, fought AGAINST that shite. We are anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, and in general anti-bigot here, even if not all the lads in Union blue uniforms were.

  2. No Confederate sympathizing. Anti-democratic racist slaver traitors don't deserve shit.

  3. Follow all Lemmy.world rules

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[–] andrewta 69 points 3 months ago (2 children)

yeah it was that black and white.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey 27 points 3 months ago

If any war ever was...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think when you're talking to intellectually dishonest racists that you need to entertain the idea they are arguing in good faith about the primary motivation for the civil war. The point is that they're mad racists and it's fun to rile them up about a conflict the south started and then lost.

[–] andrewta 4 points 3 months ago

True enough

[–] mojofrododojo 2 points 3 months ago

I love the ones that have built up an entire fake history in their minds, watching them get slammed by facts, dates and honest history just fucks their entire world up and I'm here for it.

[–] shalafi 57 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it was a complex war, and worthy of study.

No, the South wasn't fighting for (much of) anything more than keeping slavery. You are free to read the letters of succession that every state sent Congress and see for yourself, draw your own conclusions. My take away is that slavery was clearly the top concern, but they had other gripes as well.

No, the North wasn't fighting so much for the rights of blacks. The North was hardly the "good guys" regarding that, but it's damned fortuitous they won or we would have been split and weakened.

What happened after the war is perhaps more interesting than the casus belli.

[–] TeenieBopper 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you know nothing about the civil war, you know it was about slavery.

If you know a little about the civil war you know it was abouts states rights.

If you know a lot about the civil war, you know it was about slavery.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

it was about states rights to have slavery.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Great comment, thank you. Too many people do not really understand how it was on either side.

[–] kitnaht 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The backstreet boys lasted longer than the confederacy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Backstreet Boys are still touring.

[–] whostosay 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I fucking dare you to tell me why

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ain't nothin but a heartache, after all.

[–] whostosay 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] themeatbridge 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's Stevie Wonder. Very different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Fuck you now I'm going to be humming that baseline all day

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Why? I wanna know when and where!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's almost harder to find things that didn't make it as long as the confederacy. Things like beanie babies, fruit stripe gum, slap bracelets, the tamagotchi, and New Coke all outlasted it.

[–] ChicoSuave 28 points 3 months ago

The war of southern white traitors failure to consider the very basics of supply and logistics that resulted the ruthless savagery being struck from the land by a cleansing march of fire to the sea?

[–] Anti_Iridium 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ive called it the "Slaveholders Rebellion" because that's what it was all about 🫡