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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban met with former US President Donald Trump in Florida to discuss "ways to make peace." The meeting took place shortly after a NATO summit in Washington.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban traveled to the US state of Florida on Thursday, where he met with former President Donald Trump following a NATO summit in Washington.

The meeting is part of Orban's self-proclaimed "peace mission" to end Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. It is likely to add to frustration among Western allies over similar secret trips he has made to Russia and China in the past few days.

Orban met with Trump at the former president's beachside Mar-a-Lago estate and the Hungarian leader shared a photo of the two on X, formerly Twitter, with the caption: "We discussed ways to make peace. The good news of the day: he's going to solve it!"

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear 52 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] d00phy 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Later: “US Supreme Court Rules Official Acts of Former Presidents Immune From Prosecution.”

[–] rockSlayer 3 points 5 months ago

Former presidents determined to be freelance diplomats, says supreme court.

[–] Thrillhouse 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is there wiggle wording here? For example, would the Supreme Court be like “welllllll the dispute isn’t with the US”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Does the exact wording specify they have to meet about the dispute, or can it be meeting while there is any dispute (potentially deliberately vague for this purpose)? Not that it matters, courts won't do shit about trump unless it's blatantly cut and dry, and even then it'll drag out pointlessly long.

[–] Thrillhouse 4 points 5 months ago

Not a lawyer or American but here’s the text of the law. I’m guessing it depends on how you define dispute, controversy and whether is “with” the US, or whether this constitutes “defeating the measures of.”

Playing devil’s advocate I could see an argument of he’s just looking for alternative solutions in America’s best interest.

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

[–] AbidanYre 3 points 5 months ago

unless it's blatantly cut and dry, and even then it'll drag out pointlessly long

Fucking Cannon

[–] Zerlyna 6 points 5 months ago
[–] FlyingSquid 24 points 5 months ago

Did they discuss how both of their speeches would sound so much better in the original German?

[–] Viking_Hippie 17 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban traveled to the US state of Florida on Thursday, where he met with former President Donald Trump following a NATO summit in Washington.

Orban met with Trump at the former president's beachside Mar-a-Lago estate and the Hungarian leader shared a photo of the two on X, formerly Twitter, with the caption: "We discussed ways to make peace.

Orban, who is widely considered to have the warmest relations with the Kremlin among all EU leaders, made an unannounced visit to Kyiv last week, where he held talks with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, suggesting a truce.

Some observers interpreted the visit as a sign that Hungary, which took over the bloc's six-month rotating presidency earlier this month, might be taking steps toward the pro-Ukraine stance of the EU mainstream.

DW correspondent in Brussels Bernd Riegert said Orban's meeting with Trump would not help Ukraine as EU leaders fear Russia could get the impression that the West is divided.

The Hungarian prime minister has also openly supported Trump's candidacy in this year's US presidential election, expressing hope that the Republican would be able to bring an end to Russia's war in Ukraine.


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[–] kuneho 1 points 5 months ago