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[–] over_clox 103 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I want to both upvote and downvote this at the same time. So I will do neither, I will just state my opinion..

This is not a shitpost, this is fact.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] pm_me_your_thoughts 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Van gas

P.s. I'm not American.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Agreed.

Billionaires should pay everyone for stolen time, potential contributions to better world living. They currently pay only toxicity, diminish quality of life on Earth.

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[–] Diplomjodler3 66 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Actually, I'd be happy to keep working if it means that everybody on earth gets a decent standard of living.

[–] madcaesar 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree. I don't have any urge to stop working. But 40 h / 5 days a week is too much. Life is too fucking short especially given how productivity has skyrocketed yet wages have barely kept up.

Obligatory fuck Ronald Reagan and the Republican party.

[–] Diplomjodler3 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure. We can do both. Make sure everybody has a bearable workload and make sure everybody has enough.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Everything that needs to be done for society to maintain itself can be done if everyone works 20 hrs a week. The rest is just to allow some other people luxury lifestyles.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

BUT THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER TO BUILD BIGGER MEGA YACHTS. THINK OF THE YACHTS.

[–] telllos 10 points 5 months ago

I think they compete in Space cock

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (20 children)

It's not time stolen from you as the work needs to be done either way, but it's money stolen from you as you're either underpaid or paying too much for what you're buying.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Very often the work does not need to get done, the work uses up a poorly paid employee's entire work day to squeeze out an extra fraction of a percent of profit.

You're right about money, and employers are often stealing time as well.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (22 children)

It is time stolen from you as well. You only need to work a fraction of the time you do in order to cover your wages, the rest of the day is free profit for the Capitalist.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You are not only working to mentain a functional society, you are also working to constantly grow it (each year more stuff must be made, more money must be earned, more of everything) it and also to create a very big surplus for the rich. We also burn perfectly edible food, ruin perfectly wearable clothing and make electronic devices that intentionally break in a few years to get you to buy another one sooner just to get the 1% more money. If we didn't do all that and they lived normal, non-luxury lives, everyone would have a lot more free time. If everyone worked only 20 hours a week, we'd make enough to sustain our society.

[–] aski3252 9 points 5 months ago

Also, most workers are so deeply alienated because they know that they aren't working for themselves, they are working for someone else. Which is why most people simply stop giving a fuck at some point.

There is so much inefficiency because most who do the actual work don't have much motivation to do a decent job, yet alone think about what they are doing because you simply get punished, or at least don't get any reward, for thinking. And they people who (should) do the thinking often don't have a clue as they live in a bubble.

And of course there is all the bullshit about shipping stuff across the world to do different stuff when it is completely unnecessesary..

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[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 5 months ago

It's time stolen from you if you have to commute to your job.

It's time stolen from you if a lot of your job is pointless busywork.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it impairs the economy. More folks could hire people to do things. Remember there were milkmen and tv repair men at one point in time. You could hire someone to clean your house and they could hire someone to do their taxes. its amazing how an economy works when people have money to spend rather than hoard.

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[–] CrowAirbrush 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fam, at my last job they had roughly 23h of activity for me per week. 17h of nothing to do and still having to stick around because i needed every penny to be able to pay my bills.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Fucking yes. We need to be having economic conversations on the basis of time.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not opposed to being rich, or really even being filthy rich, I think the fair chance of being able to live lavishly is a great motivator for folks to shoot for their best ideas.

What I am opposed to is being so obscenely rich that it would take several generations of chronic mismanagement for your descendants to manage to blow through the funds within a time limit of "by the end of the 22nd century."

Most generational wealth has reduced to being a small supplement for the recipient to supplement still having to work for their living with by the time the original person who built it up's grandkids have had their turn with it, maybe the great grandkids if the family makes it a point of staying grounded and using the wealth wisely.

That's not even from blowing through it like madmen, it's from how many people it's getting divided among by then and how likely any one of those individuals are to just decide they don't need to work anymore on getting access to it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I'm fine with people having money, but there should be a hard cap.

Billionaires do not need to exist.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Agreed, but just saying "you can only have this much money" will get fought tooth and nail, IMO the way to do it is through basing the rates in tax brackets on the percentage of wealth controlled by people in those brackets.

It's not a "hard" cap, but it does pit the rich against each other to have more than the other rich assholes while not having so much that they're all paying an above 100% tax rate.

Might not be as delicious as frying them for ourselves, but watching the rich eat each other will be far more entertaining, and is shown to be far more effective. Take it from the once Shah of the Sasanian Empire Kavad, if any one noble is getting too powerful, the best tools to use in bringing them down is other nobles jealous of their ascendency.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 20 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Conspiracy theory: The reason we have the Chicken Tax is to keep the Hilux out of the US because it's too effective a weapon against the military

[–] Wizard_Pope 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is so smaller more competitively priced and actually usable trucks stay out of your country

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[–] camr_on 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They won't sell the Hilux in the US because it's too easy to turn into a technical. Nobody out here with a Tacoma technical

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Who tf pissed on this image?

[–] Cosmicomical 10 points 5 months ago

Shitpost? This is just unadulterated truth

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