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Pelosi noncommittal on whether she wants Biden to run: 'Whatever he decides to do' - ABC News (abcnews.go.com)

submitted 5 months ago by dogsnest to c/politics

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The Democrat declined to directly answer when asked if Biden has her support.

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[–] givesomefucks 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

She's three years older than Biden...

She also should have been retired a decade ago. And she's not going to say Biden has to retire because people will say she needs to

Like, these prideful assholes never retire, then have the balls to say no one younger than them has "the experience"...

There's only so many fucking seats in our government. Younger people can't get "the experience" because you fucks won't retire when you should, then you claim you're helpless and can't retire.

I don't know if they're fucking with us because they know we don't have a say in it. Or if they really don't understand they're causing the fucking problem that they use as an excuse.

It's like cops when they say "it's just a bad apple, nothing to do". They won't say "throw out the bad apple" because they're also a bad apple and they want to stay in the barrel

[–] dhork 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She was at least aware enough to realize she doesn't have the energy anymore to lead the Caucus, and let someone younger take over the Democratic House leadership. She probably still has Jeffries' ear whenever she wants, but he makes all the hard choices now.

I am sure that if Biden were to resign tomorrow, President Harris would carve out an advisory role for him. Maybe he can man the Red Phone between 10AM and 4 PM.

[–] dogsnest 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"Biden is too old! (78)"
-- GOP 2020

"Trump is great! (78)"
--GOP 2024

[–] dhork 6 points 5 months ago

We've discussed this in other threads, the difference is in expectations. Trump in 2024 gives a better performance than Biden did in 2020, or now.

In fairness, it is a lot easier to sound convincing and give a good performance when you don't have to stick to the truth. But Trump's supporters don't want the truth, they want the convenient fictional world Trump is good at selling.

[–] Ghostalmedia 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As anyone with aging parents knows, age isn’t just a number. I have a mother in law in her mid 80’s who is running circles around my mother in her mid 70’s. Mentally, physically, sadly my mom is simply hitting those aging milestones sooner and harder.

That’s not to say Trump isn’t an old incoherent POS, or that he’s not dangerous AF, but Biden does remind a lot of us of parents that have deteriorated pretty hard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

My theory is also that Trump's loose connection with reality and already weird mannerisms makes it much harder to recognize when he's losing it. He can just go off on a tangent about sharks and electric boats and people just say "that's Trump being Trump" rather than "uhhh, grandpa, you were giving a political speech". If he forgets the next word he was going to say, he just starts a whole new thought about a movie he watched recently or something completely made up, and none of the things he says were factual in the first place, so making a mistake on the details is impossible.

[–] dhork 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There definitely seems to be a complicated dance going on right now behind the scenes. Most Democrats are going to publically back Biden even as they try privately to get him to leave. But it seems to be members of Congress, particularly from safe seats, who are the most vocal right now. (It surprised me to learn that Pelosi is running again, at the age of 84.) Pelosi can do anything short of killing a puppy and still get elected in SF.

It makes some sense, as Biden is polling significantly behind most Congressional races right now. One would think that means that Biden's baggage is not affecting those races, but maybe they have polling that indicates that there are several close races that might get a bump if Biden leaves. These Democrats in safe congressional seats will have a much harder time of the next two years if they are in the minority because Biden cost them a bunch of close seats. And, if a Trump victory is coupled with Republicans keeping the House and taking the Senate, who do you think Trump will use his newfound regal powers on first?

It is essential that Democrats keep some check on a future Trump Presidency, and they can't do that if Biden is pulling down Democratic enthusiasm enough to risk all those close races.

[–] cabron_offsets 7 points 5 months ago

At some point, hopefully soon, we gotta find our balls and do what’s right and necessary.

[–] Rapidcreek 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Here are the headlines from Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) remarks on Morning Joe earlier today:

New York Times: Pelosi suggests that Biden should reconsider decision to stay in the race

Washington Post: Pelosi urges Biden to make decision on race, despite his insistence he will stay

USA Today: Nancy Pelosi dodges question of whether she wants Biden to be the Democratic nominee

CNBC: Pelosi refuses to say she supports Biden as the Democratic nominee

Ha! Pelosi knows exactly what she's doing.

[–] dhork 5 points 5 months ago

David Tennant in Doctor Who

Don't you think he looks tired?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

~~Cheshire~~ Pelosi cat

Sounds most like, we have to keep supporting him publicly in case he stays in the race but on the dl we think we would have better chances with someone else.

[–] Rapidcreek 1 points 5 months ago

What is the difference between Pelosi being uncommitted and the "I'm concerned" fuddy-duddy that some democratic senators throw around?

[–] Cosmicomical 1 points 5 months ago

"Whatever he decides to do" seems pretty committed to me

[–] Pronell 0 points 5 months ago

Love the massive respect that suddenly comes Pelosi's way once she's useful again.

[–] retrospectology 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To quote Malcolm Tucker: "As useless as a marzipan dildo."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

How is this parasite still alive..

JFC, will these people ever die or are we destined to be ruled by geriatric nepo babies until I am also gereatric?

Asking for a friend

[–] CharlesDarwin -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He should just accelerate this slow-rolling disaster and step down now.

[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I disagree. Embrace the chaos, and starve Trump and the fascists from the media. Imagine how exciting and inspiring it will be to have Kamala Harris get the nomination at the convention. Keep the Repugs off-balance.

IMO, the decision has already been made. Right now, they’re just shoring up funding and support. They know he can’t gain in the polls, so he can’t win. I suspect they’re testing Harris to take over, and strategizing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That’s not what anyone is saying or asking for