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[–] Klear 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like the cut of those yellow ones.

[–] whostosay 1 points 1 week ago

I don't like the cut of those yeller fellers.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just one more sail bro. I swear, we just need one more sail.

[–] ThrowawaySobriquet 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are you fucking kidding me? You're gonna look me in the eye and tell me the sail flying above the poop deck is called a spanker?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unfortunately not! The poop deck is an elevated deck, aka a sterncastle; back aft on this one is the quarterdeck.

[–] cornshark 6 points 1 week ago

Username checks out?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Question, if I may: in some sailing / pirate works I've read, a ship has been said to be making a "spanking pace."

Any relation with that back sail there?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting! I can't actually say on that one; to me, "spanking" sounds like an old fashioned intensifier I've heard "brand spanking new" a few times, which feels like the same kind of use. As to whether that has anything to do with the sail, I'm not sure. It looks like the sail itself was introduced in the late 18th century; in Seamanship in the Age of Sail, John Harland reports that one William Nicholson complains about the new sail design in a book of his in 1792. That's the closest I can get to origin of the term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for checking that out! On my end, I found this version of "spank": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spanking#Etymology_1

Which of course is different from the other meaning, to "punish by swatting."

As for an example, from Tintin's Secret of the Unicorn:
https://i.imgur.com/6BguONT.jpeg

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Interesting! That definition kind of fits with the sail that the Spanker replaced, which was called the Driver.

[–] ThrowawaySobriquet 2 points 1 week ago

Ah, well. One dares to dream

[–] NOT_RICK 6 points 1 week ago

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

[off topic]

"Master And Commander" with Russel Crowe is considered one of the best, most accurate depictions of what life was like on a Napoleonic Era sailing ship. It's a great movie.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As far as russell crow films go, it is the lesser of two weevils

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I see what you did there!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A ton of work and attention went into that film to keep it historically accurate, even down to assigning all the extras to watches and figuring out what the watch rotation would be and who would be on duty at any given time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That is so cool!

And it makes it hurt even more that we didn't get a couple dozen of these movies.

Hollywood loves to make extra films. The fact that I can't have a full set of Master and Commander films makes me worry I'm on one of the dark timelines.

[–] grue 7 points 1 week ago

The fact that I can't have a full set of Master and Commander films makes me worry I'm on one of the dark timelines.

Out of everything, that's what tipped you off‽

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Rum, sodomy, and the lash..."

Or, as we call it, Hollywood!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I adored that film, although it could have been better with less Maturin.

[–] Ersatz86 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

although it could have been better with a less two-dimensional Maturin.

FTFY

You must admit that in the books Maturin is the most compelling and well-explored personality, and the character POB most closely identifies with (finding based solely on personal assumption, mea culpa).

I would assert that the film, as good as it is, reinforces my thesis that the golden age of sail is the least adaptable to film of any literary genre. The movie is to the books as a description of the Grand Canyon is to the actual experience.

Also they are “studding sails” and referred to colloquially as “stun’sl’s” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studding_sail

So there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Another great one is "Waterloo." Back in the day, the Soviets trained thousands of Red Army troops in Napoleonic cavalry tactics. They wanted to compete with Hollywood when they made 'War And Peace.' Those same troops helped Hollywood make Waterloo, which has a very accurate reenactment of the battle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I'll agree regarding movie Maturin. Though it makes sense for him to be a sleeper character for the first book.

If I recall correctly, we didn't even get

massive spoiler for the book seriesany insights into Maturin's life as an international secret agent, or the conflict he feels that his best friend is constantly being redirected to do unwitting awesome spy work, but has no idea how important it is.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FYI the red ones are studding sails, often called stu'nsails because sailors love leaving off letters (like how "boatswain" is often called "bosun"). Also, jibs are staysails; staysails are any sail that slides up and down a stay, which are the pieces of standing rigging that support the masts from the front and the back.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 7 points 1 week ago

I like the cut of your jib, sailor!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] grue 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I found this pic informative:

It's also interesting how they were naming things after James Bond movies all the way back in the Age of Sail!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've never heard of a "gallant," just a "top gallant" (usually "t'gallant," sometimes "gans'l"). I've sailed on ships with split t'gallants, though. I did sail on one ship with a skys'l, never a moonraker; I suspect those are both terms for "a sail above the royal".

[–] grue 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Username checks out!

I've never sailed on so much as a sloop. 😢 I've been eyeing $800 Hobie Cats on Craigslist, but I'd have nowhere to put it even if I bought one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Other people's boats are always the best to sail on ;)

[–] grue 1 points 1 week ago

The only trouble with that is I want to be in charge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why isn't the topsail at the top?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just a quick WAG: at one point it was the topmost sail, and then someone was like “what if we put another sail on top of that one so we can go seven speed?”

The next sail on top became the Gallant, and so forth, apparently topping out the tech with a Moonraker.

[–] noughtnaut 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And here are the forces acting on the ship:

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Sent this to my wife so our next SoT session is smoother

Me: square the sails, were sailing into the wind on a sloop damnit!

Her: what the what and why?

We're both pirate legends

(Also this is no longer the correct action as of the latest patch but still)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

The old lady could use another spanker, hur hur hur 😆

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

like im gonna memorize all of this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago