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[–] [email protected] 160 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You don't die during interrogation with regular breaks for food, water, sleep etc. You die during torture

[–] nogooduser 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I guess that it was an unknown prior medical condition. /s

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago

So sad, Hamas using his life force as a hidden base. They truly know no shame!

[–] fluxion 5 points 6 months ago

Iran would be proud

[–] Snowclone 16 points 6 months ago

Correct. It's clearly either torture or just aimless abuse.

[–] JustZ -5 points 6 months ago

In fact, people die all the time during every concievable activity without regard to breaks.

[–] Linkerbaan 84 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most moral army in the world systematically torturing doctors to death.

[–] Guydht -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Dude that's like blaming the U.S army for snowden.

The IDF and the Shin Bet are totally different entities

[–] Linkerbaan 6 points 6 months ago

The IDF kidnaps people and delivers them to Shin Bet...

Shin Bet tries to torture false confessions out of the doctors that there is a Hamas base underneath a hospital. And frequently tortures their hostages to death...

So the most moral army is systematically giving their hostages to people which they know will torture them to death....

If they know the Shin Bet does this they are complicit in it. Outsourcing the blame does not work.

[–] Treczoks 75 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Put it on the list for the ICC. This was not an "Interrogation".

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (2 children)

After Rantisi’s death, “the Ashkelon Magistrate’s Court issued a six-month gag order prohibiting publication of all details of the case, including the existence of the gag order. The court order expired in May,” Haaretz reported.

The whole fucking system is screwed. Jfc.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

Not suspicious at all /s

[–] anas 9 points 6 months ago

Only democracy in the Middle East, ladies and gentlemen.

[–] Veraxus 67 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I am so sick of these passive article titles. He was tortured to death. He was tortured and murdered. Call it what it is.

[–] Dasus 20 points 6 months ago

Same.

It seems as childish as toddlers having broken something by throwing it forcefully on the floor and then pretending that they don't understand why the thing broke.

[–] assassin_aragorn 9 points 6 months ago

I think they use passive headlines over concern about being sued for libel, but I agree. They really need to call the bluff, because if a party sues for libel, that party has to prove it's a willful lie. And that would be a very interesting discovery process.

[–] febra 40 points 6 months ago

So he was tortured to death by the Israelis. He didn't just "die" like that. He was tortured to death. Call it for what it is

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago

Prominent Palestinian doctor, Iyad Rantisi, was tortured to death by Israel

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

This is so, so fucked up.

It's hard to grieve effectively in the face of so many tragedies. Here is another one.

[–] Ranvier 31 points 6 months ago

Horrible.

Just want to add another source here from an Israeli news source (Hareetz) also reporting all the major points from the above article.

https://archive.is/IZNtf https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-06-18/ty-article/.premium/israel-arrested-a-senior-doctor-in-gaza-six-days-later-he-died-in-a-shin-bet-facility/00000190-27eb-d14b-a999-27eb9aea0000

Probably not a surprise, but the suspicious uninvestigated deaths don't end there.

[–] Maggoty 29 points 6 months ago

This is totally normal. People die under interrogation all the time in oppressive authoritarian countries. I don't know why Iran and Israel are fighting when they have so much in common.

[–] xc2215x 27 points 6 months ago

Very sad to see him go out this way.

[–] Keeponstalin 27 points 6 months ago
[–] werefreeatlast 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I got no horse in this race because I'm from Mexico and the USA, well maybe I got a pony since you'd have to drag me back to Mexico. But I digress.... let me correct the tit-Le. It should be "prominent Palestinian doctor, Iyad Rantisi (sounds like he really liked rants like me), was murdered while in custody by the Israeli army as they tortured him in a fake interrogation mostly a thinly veiled murder made to look like an interrogation. It's a long title but it gets the message across.

[–] helmet91 7 points 6 months ago

I mean, if the words "Israel" and "interrogation" are in it, it pretty clearly conveys what you just described.

[–] assassin_aragorn 13 points 6 months ago

Yeah he was absolutely tortured to death. Fucking disgusting.

[–] Feliskatos 11 points 6 months ago

And the White House is baffled by Netanyahu's claim about not supplying enough weapons to Israel. Is torture allowed under the Geneva Conventions?

[–] ghostdoggtv 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Israel really thinks they're going to get away with this kind of shit huh? No wonder Netanyahu is so mad about his Amazon packages

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're getting away with it so far.

[–] lennybird 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes and no. They've since lost global support for their actions; in an unprecedented move they are now being closely investigated for war crimes in a state of the world where such courts want to maintain impartiality to sustain their verdicts against Russia in Ukraine. To me it seems pretty clear that the Biden administration wants nothing to do with Israel but is only willing to follow the polls of public sentiment as opposed to take an aggressive stance ahead of where the public is at.

In this respect, Hamas succeeded. Israel over-stepped and committed the equivalent of 30, 40, perhaps 50+ October 7ths. The widespread recognition that Israel is a far-right nationalist government and Bibi is trying to desperately cling to power and avoid conviction in ongoing criminal trials domestically will, hopefully, have serious repercussions in the long-term. Domestically, Israelis may also slowly be coming to the realization that their Democracy isn't so Democratic.

Both Netanyahu and Putin are closely watching, and actively trying to influence, these US elections.

[–] Snowclone 17 points 6 months ago

Well His government has been getting away with it for a long long time. They're quite used to it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

They will because they're backed by the US.

[–] Zehzin 5 points 6 months ago

They have been getting away with worse for decades.