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[–] SkyezOpen 176 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Decided to test a former pharm tech.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 5 months ago

The runes… decoded

Thanks for sending and sharing, that’s incredible to the point it’s hard to believe

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (5 children)

i guess the p and l are the important bits and the rest can just be inferred, since paracetamol is very commonly used and they'd get tired writing it in detail every time. other more specialized drugs with p___l (or close to it) as its name would have more squiggles i assume.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s (shorthand)[teeline.online]. It says “prc(t)ml” with the p being in the obvious spot (though it should be just a downward line), the r is the diagonal line after it, the c is the little curl, the t should be more pronounced, but it should be a horizontal line slightly above the rest, the m is a concave-down swoosh, and the l is the final curl. No vowels b/c they’re largely redundant.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's a super common prescription and most doctors probably couldn't spell it offhand. Combined with dosing info it would be more obvious. Also if they do happen to be wrong it's unlikely to actually cause harm with acetaminophen/paracetamol.

Edit: another benefit is disguising to a patient that demands something to take. Essentially a placebo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

In addition, there's a psychological phenomenon where our brains only need the first and last letter of a word in the right place, and all the right letters in between in any order, to suss out a word. Our familiarity with a lngaauge will put it together, so presumably the same is true for healthcare providers' common words.

Note: I included an example of this in my comment

[–] danc4498 9 points 5 months ago

In adtidion, trehe's a pshyocloigal pheonmneon where our bairns olny need the fsrit and lsat lteter of a word in the rghit pclae, and all the rghit ltertes in bteewen in any oedrr, to suss out a word. Our faiilamirty with a lagnuage wlil put it toehgter, so pseurambly the smae is treu for haehtlcare pvoerdirs' cmmoon wdros.

FTFY… I read this just as fast as the original.

[–] thelasttoot 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Your e-----------e d-----t w----k w-----------t the c-----------t of the l---------s i-----------------n.

If they're commonly used words the scribbles end up becoming a form of shorthand that doctors can recognize, but they're meaningless to anyone who isn't already familiar with them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

"Your example doesn't work without the context of the (something) intention."

How'd I do?

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[–] Thekingoflorda 20 points 5 months ago

Omg it actually works

[–] CoffeeJunkie 167 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Funny, but also not. Just Googled because I couldn't remember:

"According to the Institute of Medicine, physician's illegible notes lead to approximately 7,000 deaths annually."

Seems unreal. Even if it was half that...that's a lot of people. If I was getting prescribed drugs, I want it LEGIBLE. Typed up would be great. I just don't trust that shit, and neither should any of you.

[–] thedirtyknapkin 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)

some said i was destined to be a doctor with my handwriting and family. i decided to break the cycle and become a videographer that barely scrapes by. my family is... they like the videos i make of our get togethers...

at least i haven't accidentally killed anyone.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

at least I haven't accidentally killed anyone.

Yet, there's still time, I believe in you.

[–] Sarmyth 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is likely why I haven't seen my doctor write anything for over a decade. Literally everything is done on the computer now. There's a rolling computer in each room. The only handwriting I saw was by the nurses on a big whiteboard when my wife was giving birth. Just to pass notes and write times.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 11 points 5 months ago

As someone who's done IT work for a medical facility, that's not as much of a step up as you might think.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Watching my doctor fill out my digital chart to avoid these spelling mistakes….

me: I take guanfacine

Doctor: oh ok cool you take mucinex?

me: no, not guanfanesin, guanfacine.

Doctor: oh, ok. Got it

Doctor: ….

Me: ….

Doctor: and what milligram mucinex do you take?

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[–] Jiggle_Physics 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Back in the day I used to work at one of the largest hospitals in the US. In my last year there they had started having doctors record their notes, issues order, and prescriptions, on an audio file, using and issued microphone. Then that stuff was sent to a group of people transcribing everything in text. these scribes would also fill out forms for the orders and prescriptions. they did this in response to a series of lawsuits they lost badly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Here in the UK and (if I'm remembering correctly) back home in Canada, I have always been handed a print out of my prescription with a signature.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, here in Sweden, when I get a perscription, my doctor types on his computer for five min, I then walk to any pharmacy, hand them my ID, of they have it they will offer a cheaper alternative, if they don't have any of the medicine, they will tell me which pharmacy does, if none has it they will order it for me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same here in Italy, but it took COVID to get them off their asses and finish the system for this that was already 90% there

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Here in Germany it was introduced last year (I think). Heard it still causes trouble on the organization side, but as a patient it works great.

[–] Iceblade02 10 points 5 months ago

Oh it's a problem here to. You do not want to know how much information is passed on through rapidly scrawled sticky notes in our healthcare system - particularly in emergency situations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

It even works for animal medicine. My cat needed some and the pharmacy just ordered it!

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago

Looks kinda the same

[–] iAvicenna 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Peenol™️ - it’s for the peen™️

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just see "oishi." Tasty?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Where is the し?Do Japanese people have some kind of Schreibschrift for kana, so many new questions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

It's right at the end!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

They started to draw a dick but stopped when they realized it would be unprofessional

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

It's a sperm

[–] nifty 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You don’t need prescription for paracetamol afaik, could be prescription strength I guess

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

If it's in a hospital setting any medication given likely needs an MD order.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Might not be a prescription, could be release forms or something like that

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[–] Thcdenton 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How much do MDs actually write a day? Are they saving that much time by doing that shit?

[–] Maalus 6 points 5 months ago

40% of the visit is typing. They need to keep history, write the perscription etc. Nowadays they do that on PCs. Though I used to have a doctor that wrote everything on a typing machine. You'd tell him what's wrong and then he'd write it, often with tons of typos (he wouldn't start over). Obviously meds were always correct, it was just funny seeing a doctor butchering words and being unable to correct himself.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago
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