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Floridasheriff on Friday fired a deputy who fatally shot a Black airman at his home while holding a handgun pointed to the ground.

Okaloosa County Sheriff Eric Aden fired Deputy Eddie Duran, who fatally shot Senior Airman Roger Fortson on May 3 after responding to a domestic violence call and being directed to Fortson’s apartment.

Body camera video shows that when the deputy arrived outside Fortson’s door, he stood silently for 20 seconds outside and listened, but no voices inside were heard on his body camera.

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[–] inclementimmigrant 99 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A criminal investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is ongoing.

Not going to hold my breath for any actual justice here.

[–] rockSlayer 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The cop will get off and slither to the department 2 towns over.

[–] Broken_Monitor 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As is tradition. How many times must this happen before we start holding cops accountable for their actions? How can you uphold the law while standing on top of it and pissing all over it?

[–] rockSlayer 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm adamant that we should mandate a 4 year law enforcement degree and a certification, issued by an independent community police board.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

If a nurse causes a malpractice that is on their license for years and other states detect it. Cops nothing. We should have their full history accessible to the public.

[–] Broken_Monitor 10 points 1 month ago

A thousand times yes. We require those degrees to do so many far less critical jobs. It’s unreal how completely opposite this is for LEOs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is a Fund the Police position. More training doesn't fix a lack of consequences. You have to take money and/or freedom away from them for doing bad things, or you'll never see positive change.

[–] rockSlayer 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never said anything about giving more money to police departments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly. You were talking about the creation of large bureaucratic entities that would work hand in hand with police departments. What happens when police departments want to recruit. Maybe they can offer cheap loans to people who go to those universities. Maybe when officers retire, they can go work for those independent organizations that you're talking about.

All of the above is expensive, all of it makes large law enforcement even more entrenched in society despite value or lack thereof, and none of it has anything to do with accountability or oversight. You're proposing a solution that doesn't even address the real problem.

[–] rockSlayer 1 points 4 weeks ago

I wasn't expecting you to revive this discussion, but I'll still talk about it. I was suggesting that the independent oversight board is funded by diverting police funds. For it to be independent, we'd have to prevent former cops and their families from being on the board. Since the independent board is responsible for issuing the police licenses, that would be pretty easy to track.

For the record, I'm not saying that this is the only solution either. To me, this is a large part of the overall solution for ending police violence. There are a lot of police reforms I want to see, but we have to start somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

But why would they hire him when the first department give him a glowing recommendation?

Oh, I see.

[–] FlyingSquid 22 points 1 month ago

It might in this particular case simply because we're talking about an active duty military man who got murdered.

On the other hand, he was black and this is Florida, so who knows?

[–] stoly 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Two right wing symbols involved: military and police. Anything can happen here.

[–] inclementimmigrant 10 points 1 month ago

Sure but a black man was shot in Florida so I'm not holding out any hope here especially in that racist ass state that let a guy get away with killing a black kid over some skittles.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@stoly @inclementimmigrant Yeah, but he was a _black_ airman, so sure, the deputy got fired, but I’m not holding my breath that he won’t just be hired by another force nearby and the whole thing swept away.

[–] stoly 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m certain he gets hired elsewhere if there are no charges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Dude even with charges, he might just have to go to a different state at most. But Florida's pretty big he can probably just go to the other side of the state.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck Okaloosa County. I had a home there and I sold to get the fuck out of that shit show. Most beautiful beaches in the continental united states, with the most toxic fascist morons I have ever seen. We wanted to retire there but had to nope the fuck out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For some reason that's just the way it works, I mean look at orange county

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Hey now, they're better than Polk. Barely.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Now arrest him and see if he's at fault. Was he drunk, done this multiple times, or should have been fired before. You know, the normal investigating stuff we should do with every case like this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Fired with a years severance? Accolades? I’m not used there being any real repercussions for this shit, so I’m just expecting the other shoe to drop.

“Oh now he’s a consultant for America first” or whatever rittenhouses bullshit dealio is

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s a lot of moving around. Wonder why the officer didn’t stay with jobs. Of course, I would leave Altus as quickly as I could, too, so can’t blame him for that one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

He probably kept getting fired for murdering Black people. Terribly inconvenient, you know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

At least this one didn't get to resign first. Might reduce the number of departments where he can apply, though that number won't be anything near zero.