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[–] pubquiz 133 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Excellent, when is Trump being crucified?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Every day if you believe the whiny bullshit he tweets out. πŸ˜†

[–] Bdtrngl 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It would have to be a strong ass cross to hold his bloated carcass up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I don't want to see anything related to DJT and an ass-cross...

But if I were just to hear about it then ok I guess.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I mean, Jesus was actually guilty of the crime he was charged with, wasn't he? The local Jews had laws against blasphemy and that included claiming to be the son of God. Which he did. One could argue that the law was unjust, but the trial itself came to the correct verdict.

Um, not to say that Trump is particularly Jesus-like, of course. Jesus was reasonably healthy and knew a useful trade.

[–] LifeOfChance 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You know whats weird? I grew up involved with the church and until just now I never knew why he was actually crucified other than the generic "for our sins " nonsense.

[–] Soggy 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Historical context isn't commonly taught alongside the bible, it makes it very hard to blindly apply ancient moral lessons to modern society. My favorite example is the story of Onan, often preached as anti-masturbation. Within the legal setting of the time it's actually about greed: Onan would inherit his brother's property since he had no heir. Commanded to produce a son with his brother's widow, he opted to "spill his seed on the ground" rather than forfeit the inheritance.

But preaching against greed is often unpopular, especially with the Prosperity Gospel, and it was a "close enough" cherry to pick for the Puritan movement.

All that to say: yes, most people have no idea about the background behind anything in the bible.

[–] FuglyDuck 1 points 5 months ago

What cracks me up about that whole story is that it wouldn’t have been a problem if god didn’t off Err for being a total asshole.

Which. How big of an asshole do you have to be to get god to personally spite you, in particular?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The "blasphemy" was actually treason and sedition. That's why the Romans executed him instead of the Jewish clergy.

Though it is worth noting at the time that denying the Emperor was a god was all three, blasphemy, treason, and sedition, and it was also something the Jewish faith demanded they do, but all the Jewish leaders at the time broke that religious law to keep their positions and general state of not being crucified.

The blasphemy-only retelling, and implying it was blasphemy against the Jewish religion, is Roman Catholic revisionism to deflect blame from, you know, the Roman state after they became the dominant religion and gained its support.

[–] FuglyDuck 2 points 5 months ago

The "blasphemy" was actually treason and sedition. That's why the Romans executed him instead of the Jewish clergy.

That and the Roman’s didn’t like non-Roman’s doing executions. They didn’t care about mystics running around doing all sorts of weird things. But they did care about all the bodies being left lying around. (It was untidy.)

There were a lot of Jewish mystics cropping up at the time, Jesus was just one cult of many- though his cult actually survived long enough to become a religion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The real shame of it all is only one of the men in question was actually born.

[–] GladiusB 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought he was a bad carpenter? Which roughly just means handyman during the time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Now imagine Trump trying to fix anything, even slightly.

[–] SPRUNT 1 points 5 months ago

If by "fix" you mean "to use one's money and influence in an effort to secure a desired outcome", then yes, Trump fixes a gross number of things.

And by "gross" I mean both a large quantity and completely disgusting.

[–] FuglyDuck 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just for the record….

Trump is also guilty of the crime he was convicted of. So they have that in common.

Also, Jesus was a Jewish mystic. Probably a grifter with more in common to Joel Osteen than any one we would admire today as a selfless humanitarian; and for all his anti-rich stuff, he was probably holding his hand out with a cheesy grin. You know the grin.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol, they are literally defending Trump fucking a porn star right after his wife gave birth to one of his sons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

tHaT's fOr gOd tO jUdGe!!1!one!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They should be asked to reply with all of the other ways Trump is Christ-like. Really make them work for their stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jesus is well known for also fucking a pornstar for on his third marriage, right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well, there was Mary Magdalene but he was single and they were just friends.πŸ˜‰

[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, he hung out with 12 guys.

Hangs out with 12 guys, won't touch the sexy lady... yeah.

[–] FuglyDuck 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He may have touched her, but she was definitely his beard. (So was the wives of the disciples, heh.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Polyamory erasure!

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He holds up bibles - just like Jesus!!1!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The bible wasn't written until 300 years after Jesus lived.

Them: It's a miracle!!11!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I find it hard to grasp how these folks just don't seem to notice what a grifter Trump actually is.
Nobody with a moral backbone could ever do half the stuff Trump did before, during, and after his presidency.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

That's the thing though, all religions are control schemes. Christianity especially. It has nothing to do with being moral and everything to do with being obedient to a particular authority. The core of the faith is authoritarianism, not any branch of morality.

[–] whotookkarl 1 points 5 months ago

If you're kept isolated and ignorant by an undermined education system, geographically and social media algorithm bubbled, limited economic prospects, and normalized extreme right wing propaganda you get these feelings like you would be morally justified in spreading your particular view to others by force to save them or society or whatever or however bad your 'team' is the other must be worse.

It's not uniquely American, it's the same right wing, nationalistic, authoritarian rhetoric used as everywhere else, it's just more religious believing countries like the US tend to be more susceptible to this type of ideological rhetoric because it usually uses the same language and feelings as religious belief.

I suspect it's currently amplified by more liberal leaning followers leaving the party just like in the churches, leaving more fundamentalist believers to push more extreme ideology in lack of internal opposition, but that's probably just one of multiple reasons

[–] assassin_aragorn 15 points 5 months ago

This is definitely the kind of person who walks up to their pastor in church and says "why are you making the Bible so woke and liberal??"

[–] peg 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jesus ashamed that he fucked porn stars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago
[–] thenextguy 1 points 4 months ago

Is this Jeopardy?

I'll take stupid comments for $1000.