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[–] NOT_RICK 58 points 1 month ago (6 children)

pretty clear actions of a colonial oppressor, imo

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[–] mlg 28 points 1 month ago

It seems weird that the CCP destroyed this Mosque and ran a massacre, apologized for it, paid for it to be rebuilt which was completed in 2009, and then promptly changed it again.

Incidentally, it had to do with who was running the CCP at each time period. Really helps to discredit Xi as some pompous moron compared to Deng who understood the value in giving people rights & liberties and not running the country like a craphole like how Mao did.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those two are the same place? Looks like it was entirely destroyed and rebuilt as something else, I'm seeing very little similarly between the two.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They basically added a couple of floors to hide the dome. Looks like the spires got shorter though.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wait, in ALL of China? Not a single mosque dome?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's domes everywhere, not really sure what The Guardian is talking about

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Complete bullshit. I saw multiple when I was there, and some of the oldest mosques in the world are in China, dating back to at least 800AD

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[–] Theprogressivist 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sinicism - something characteristic of or peculiar to the Chinese; a Chinese method, custom, or usage.

Learned a new word today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've always had a pretty sinical view about the Chinese.

[–] SlothMama 2 points 1 month ago

This is an amazing pun by means of play on words and phonetics to imply additional meaning. Incredible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You'll see the prefix "sino-" a lot if you start looking into Chinese geopolitical history.

[–] Linkerbaan 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jesus turned into a white dude and Mohamed is now Han Chinese.

[–] werefreeatlast 3 points 1 month ago

Not only that but Mary, Jesus' mom is both a virgin, a mom, and white and Mexican! She's not a trinity, she's a forthnity!

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they should work on demolishing some of those ghost cities instead...

[–] TokenBoomer 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There are people there now:

Reporting in a 2018, Shepard revisited a number of the so called "ghost cities" several years his book and noted that, "Today, China’s so-called ghost cities that were so prevalently showcased in 2013 and 2014 are no longer global intrigues. They have filled up to the point of being functioning, normal cities ... "

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Oh, well, if "Justapedia" says so...

(The fuck is this website?)

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[–] CosmoNova 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Is this satire? Ghost cities really just started to seriously get reported on in 2018 and subsequently more each following year. Also what the heck even is Justapedia? The opinion piece that the "2018 onwards" section is based on was released in 2018 itself and was proven wrong almost immediately. It's outdated. Frankly, the section doesn't even look like it belongs on the page and is phrased intentionally devious. It's completely wrong.

[–] TokenBoomer 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Justapedia is crap, but the article it references is real and from the guy that first wrote about the ghost cities.

[–] CosmoNova 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s even worse. This is almost a decade old and got absolutely nothing to do with the housing market today. Are we really pretending nothing has changed since 2015? Especially in China? Seriously? The argument in the beginning was precisely about ghost cities 2018 onwards and neither of you provided a source that‘s remotely recent or accurate today.

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[–] TokenBoomer 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The opinion piece that the "2018 onwards" section is based on was released in 2018 itself and was proven wrong almost immediately.

Which piece has been proven wrong?

This one, this one, or this one?

You didn’t just make that up to confirm your bias, did you? Can you please provide evidence that the state-level new area is unpopulated? Because my search says the population is 5.68 million.

[–] CosmoNova 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The very source of the page you just sent refers to an article from 2018. Do you understand there are cited sources? Did you not bother checking them?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

China's property glut is being eaten up by the rural-urban migration. It's not a static demand market.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The last major mosque in China to have retained Arabic-style features has lost its domes and had its minarets radically modified, marking what experts say is the completion of a government campaign to sinicise the country’s Muslim places of worship.

Satellite imagery from 2022 shows the entrance pavilion decorated with a large crescent moon and star made from vivid black tiles.

Ruslan Yusupov, an anthropologist at Cornell University who spent two years in Shadian doing fieldwork, said: “Sinification of these two landmark mosques marks the success of the campaign.

Yusupov said the development of Shadian and Najiaying mosques represented “the ability of Muslims to regain religious and Islamic space after the cultural revolution.

“We just wanted to preserve our last bit of dignity, because except for Shadian and Najiaying, every [mosque] in the country has been remodelled,” said the man, who has since left China and who asked to remain anonymous because of fears for his safety.

Ian Johnson, the author of The Souls of China, a book about religion, said: “Given the tragic history of this mosque – especially that within living memory Han chauvinism already led to its destruction once – the reconstruction and renaming of it is another effort to erase local people’s beliefs and their cultural heritage.”


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[–] afraid_of_zombies 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I will never understand people who are so fragile about their birth culture. Cultures should serve us humans, not the other way around. Who cares if there is a not- enough Chinese building in China? Let people build whatever architecture they want to worship their skydaddy how they feel like.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This feels like something that would happen in some version of Civilization, the 4X game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Straight from the top of my dome
Rock rock, rock a rock a rock the microphone

[–] hakunawazo 2 points 1 month ago

Boomfunk Mosques?

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