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[–] [email protected] 125 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

I honestly do not understand why anyone would want to watch TV on their fridge.

[–] adam_y 86 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Right?! When they could be playing Doom on it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I just watch TV at the gas pump like everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

2nd button down on the right, press twice to mute

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

When you kill an enemy.

[–] lemmylommy 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people have a TV blaring all day in the kitchen. I don’t get that either, but that must be their target.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Becomes a white noise that’s comforting?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I get it. I usually have some manner of street food compilation or gaming video in the background if I'm not actively watching something.

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[–] BertramDitore 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The reporter’s use case actually makes a lot of sense to me. I would never buy one of these, but I wouldn’t be opposed to using something like this if I ever ended up with one.

It’s not like I stand in front of it and watch a whole movie in my kitchen. But I like to have the T2 Tennis Channel on while I scramble eggs or pop on a news show while cooking dinner. Plus, it’s nice to have a kitchen screen that doesn’t take up counter space.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Or just put some adhesive flat magnets on your tablet.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The aspect ratio of the screen doesn't seem like it'd be all that ideal.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Since it now the norm for everyone to film everything with a smartphone and in the vertical position (I'm old enough that this still hurts my soul), Ive hypothesized that it won't be long before we start seeing a lot of tvs in this format.

[–] HowManyNimons 9 points 5 months ago

Ow! Now my soul is taking splash damage.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Smart fridges are such a stupid idea. Fridges last like 30 years, why would you integrate a computer that is going to reach end-of-life in less than 5 years?

Just get a fucking tablet and use it in the kitchen.

[–] Odelay42 35 points 5 months ago

Bold of you to assume these fridges are built to last

[–] surewhynotlem 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fridges last like 30 years

To be fair, these are Samsung.

[–] Regna 12 points 5 months ago

Samsung who won’t even provide price estimates/quotes for reparation of utensils WITHIN WARRANTY without being paid $25 before hand. Their products suck that much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Samsung isn't what they used to be. 5-10 years ago they were fine but they've really gone downhill with customer support and quality. I'll be looking at another manufacturer next time I need an SSD.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, fridges last 10-ish years, 15 if you're lucky, especially if you buy Samsung or LG. My LG compressor went out twice in 10 years, and the second time the tech said it would cost way more to fix than it's worth, even if the part is under warranty (I fixed other stuff myself as well).

I just got a new fridge, and looking through reviews, even the "best" fridges (unless you go industrial) last 10-15 years on average. I got Whirlpool this time, because they were near the top of recommendations (Maytag was #1), so hopefully those 10-15 years will be relatively trouble-free.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

So I don't need all the features of a smart fridge and shit because I habe a phone and a tablet hub for that sort of thing, but a feature I've only seen on LG smart fridges is something I'm frequently annoyed more don't have these days with how cheap the tech is: remote fridge monitoring

Slap a few cheap cameras in there so I can see 2 angles on every shelf and monitor the current fridge levels from my phone.

"Are we low on ketchup or am I stupid?” know for certain!

Saw a feature close to this but not quite as good on an LG smart fridge years ago and have been vehemently disappointed by every fridge ive looked at since not having that.

And I'm in the market for a new fridge goddamnit. I don't want to have to install my own cams but I'm close to doing it at this point

[–] RedWeasel 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

30y seems a bit optimistic. I have already replaced the control board on our fridge once and I think I need to again and it probably is less than 15yo.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Well, your question answered itself from the manufacturer's perspective. Fuck the consumer.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (8 children)

as an appliance salesperson at a well-known home-improvement retailer, i do just about whatever i can to stop people from buying Samsung appliances. They're garbage. They overstuff their appliances with way too much unnecessary tech that nobody wants, and in order to keep the costs from being astronomical, they cut on build quality. Countless customers come in to replace Samsung appliances that failed far before their expected lifespan, often breaking within the first few years.

you want reliable? go with LG or GE. Whirlpool is also pretty decent.

[–] chellomere 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

European here, I suggest Bosch or Electrolux, if that's available in your part of the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Oh my God Bosch does good on their motors. Annoyingly one of those you pay for what you get companies.

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[–] dual_sport_dork 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

LG all the way. I have not had much in the way of positive results from GE since their acquisition by Haier. Their build quality took an immediate and noticeable nosedive. I have seen DOA, damaged, and defective units of all stripes from all brands over the years. But I have never seen any units arrive from the factory not fully assembled, but still packed up in a box and shipped in that state, except from GE. Multiple times.

I received a PFE28 refrigerator with no ice maker mechanism, just a hole in the door where it should have been installed. I also received a CGS700 range with the oven light door switch not installed, just rolling around in the bottom of the oven cavity where it was subsequently baked by the customer. I also received one CXE22 refrigerator with no face panel on the center drawer. There are other examples but those are just the recent ones I can remember off the top of my head.

Haier's management philosophy seems to be in lockstep with the Chinese Manufacturing Way, which is to steal whatever tech you can, do a slapdash job of making it, lie about everything, and when pressed about it just lie some more.

Honestly Whirlpool is not doing great these days, either, but they're better than Samsung or GE. Whirlpool has seemingly devolved into mostly competing with itself with all of its various sub-marquees: Amana, Maytag, KitchenAid, Gladiator, Jenn-Air, Roper, Affresh, etc. A better strategy might be to compete with their, you know, competitors. Whirlpool's warranty service network has also essentially evaporated over the last few years, so if you don't already know a repairman who is Whirlpool factory authorized to do warranty work you may as well just open a Youtube tab and figure that shit out yourself. Otherwise you'll just be told "there are no servicers or service dates in your area and the system only lets us look two weeks in advance" over and over again until your warranty runs out.

The less we say about Samsung the better. At one point we were experiencing a roughly 50/50 first-week failure rate of their laundry machines and dishwashers. A coin flip. That's worse odds than a first run XBox 360 not red ringing itself to put it into perspective. Don't buy a Samsung appliance no matter how shiny it is or how big of a touch screen it's got.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Although GE has delivered one or two problematic appliances, overall the customers I’ve had have had pretty great experiences with them, especially since higher bought majority share from them. Overall, I haven’t heard any complaints aside from teeny weenie ones. But I’ll keep My ears open.

[–] cm0002 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

While I'm sure they're cutting build quality to make them cheaper, the "unnecessary tech" isn't some cutting edge high tech stuff requiring high R&D costs that would make them "astronomically expensive"

If they wanted to they could literally replicate everything they're doing with a 60$ raspberry pi and just interface it with the existing controller boards and call it a day.

Even this article about the fridge is just an (admittedly fairly large screen) tablet.

[–] dual_sport_dork 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Samsung FamilyHub fridge does indeed basically have an overgrown tablet duct taped to the door. It runs Samsung's Tizen operating system, which you may recall was at one point going to be the Next Big Thing and a competitor to Android and iOS. Obviously that didn't happen, so now it's relegated to refrigerators.

Honestly, my theory is that Samsung is just pulling a sunk cost fallacy move and was desperate to put Tizen in something -- anything -- to justify its development.

It's terrible. All the hardware is also located inside the upper right door, and it dumps all of its waste heat out the back of the door into the refrigerator compartment. The design is breathtakingly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The design is breathtakingly stupid.

And here I thought their shitty TVs were breathtakingly stupid and over complicated (seriously there are like 6 different fucking menu screens in different places, and best of luck remembering which one you need for something stupid simple like sleep timer..)

Then again, I’ve been avoiding Samsung since the tv incident 10 years ago.. apparently for the best..

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

you want reliable? go with LG or GE.

Going to have to disagree based on personal experience (which admittedly has limited value). Bought LG washer, dryer, and fridge when we moved. The washer blew the clutch seal after about 4 and a half years. The dryer sensor is unreliable (leading to taking jeans or blankets out, them still being damp, and having to put them back in on a timer). And the fridge compressor sounds like it's struggling.

The most absurd part is that we replaced the washer with a similar LG model (one with an agitator - I looked into just replacing the part but it was half the price of the washer, the underside of the impeller was moldy because lack of water flow, something no amount of tub clean cycles will fix, and the outer bucket was absolutely disgusting from the leak, with no easy way to hose it out) because everything else was either crap, ridiculously expensive, or both.

I hate this timeline.

[–] SmoothLiquidation 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have an anecdote that says the opposite. I got the same fridge, washer, and dryer from LG when we moved in our house 10 years ago and have had no problems with any one of them. My wife hates that we got a model with the freezer as a drawer on the bottom and would have preferred a side by side but no problems with anything breaking.

Our Bosch dishwasher on the other hand had a gasket start leaking during the pandemic and it took the repair people 4 or 5 months to get a replacement in. I think they were redesigning a faulty part at the same time as all the supply chain issues so we had a really bad time with that. It was only a couple years old at the time and has worked ever since.

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[–] ripcord 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have an anecdote where my LG washer has been running fine for 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, we bought a new LG washer and dryer set when we moved to this house in late 2016. The washer has been trouble free. In fact, it actually saved us from washing delicate clothes in hot water (the handles on the spigots are reversed - the blue is hot; the red is cold) - it filled up, recognized there was a problem, and drained without doing anything more. I thought there was an issue with the washer at first, but then I realized how warm it was inside the washer, and I figured it out from there. I don't think it's technically a smart washer in the current sense (there's no app or anything), but it's definitely smarter than the ones I've had before.

The dryer's tension pulley failed, so I had to replace that, for ~$20 from Amazon. It was making noise for a long time, but like a dolt I waited until it actually failed to replace it. The replacement has been trouble free. I found a video on Youtube from someone that showed how to disassemble it to get to the part - it's easier than it looks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was with you until you suggested GE. GE is the Chrysler of appliances (ie squeeze suppliers on price so much that they get precisely what they ask for). It's the monkey's paw effect.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

I'm constantly replacing the drain pump in my LG washer. When a replacement part has thousands of reviews on amazon, you know the brand has to know their parts are crap and either doesn't care or wanted it that way. They're on my never buy list now.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Dumb fridges forever. Just keep the food cold.

Also, Welcome to the world of tomorrow.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Still wandering what use has such a simple machine like a fridge for a 32" screen..

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

There are two (fairly lackluster) uses for it.

The first is that it has a camera with a large fisheye that can show you the inside (though this is more useful when away from the fridge rather than using the screen). The issue is the camera is only at one point. The fisheye helps see more, but it can never see all the fridge.

The second is as a home assistant in the kitchen. This is actually useful. It can display recipes and whatever in it whole you cook. You can also use a phone, tablet, or other home assistant device for this though, but if you want to throw away money this does seem convenient.

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[–] db2 13 points 5 months ago

So now Samsung fridges won't play TV shows or cool the food?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Now that's the funniest utopian phrase

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Yesterday morning, I woke up to a notice on my fridge alerting me that one of my favorite features was going away.

And while that turned out not to be the case — the confusion highlights how precarious smart appliance features can be.

“The notification was sent in error, and a correction will be released.” I also asked Langlois if he could explain why this happened and how many fridges sent out this message.

It offers hundreds of live TV channels with news, sports, and plenty of classic TV (there’s an entire channel dedicated to Baywatch reruns and another to Degrassi Junior High), alongside movies on demand.

I’m still waiting for that pop-up telling me all is good, but I’m definitely relieved I’m not losing the option to watch TV Plus on my fridge.

But I like to have the T2 Tennis Channel on while I scramble eggs or pop on a news show while cooking dinner.


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