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[–] WhatIsThePointAnyway 114 points 5 months ago (1 children)

De-centralization and open source was always the better way. Technology started on this path and the corporate powers have done everything they can to sabotage and destroy open tech.

[–] CitizenKong 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Been this way with every new tech I reckon. See also DVD burners and DRM/regional codes.

[–] Aux 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, I find it funny that people don't remember DVD DRM. I guess it wasn't noticeable to Americans, but you move from Latvia to the UK and suddenly all your movies are duds. You can at least use a VPN today to circumvent this bull shit in many cases, no such luck back then.

P.S. What was even worse for people living in xUSSR countries is that part of DVDs came from Russia (region 5) and part came from Europe (zone 2, because many xUSSR countries were assigned zone 2). The same was true for DVD players. So it was always a puzzle what to buy. Fuck this shit.

[–] alexc 76 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem you are describing is not malware or viruses. They’re just the tools.

The problem is capitalism, which turns everything free into something on which a profit can be made

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No.... It's malware. It's not a virus, it's malicious. It's malware.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox 4 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's why Foss will always be better, and we need to support these developers. They also need to protect their software better from capitalist ghouls that will profit from it for free

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Protecting FOSS is impossible, there will always be a company that uses your codebase, credits you and includes advertisements to your program.

We need to make using FOSS projects the default and using the corporate options as the backup option.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What I mean is better licenses that make sure you get paid if companies profit from it, and harsher penalties for those that get caught infringing the license

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Such a license wouldn't fit the free software or the open source definitions, but I find it interesting that there has been a small, yet apparently growing, group of people unsatisfied with our current open licensing, for different reasons, and proposing new ideas and concepts that wouldn't fit these definitions.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin 60 points 5 months ago

Aggressive capitalism coupled with user ignorance is the main issue. The advice still remains don't install all this shit, but people growing uo with smartphones have bought in to this idea that it's reasonable for Google to spy on your every move, so why not every other app?

So many users have no idea how their devices work - even an inkling - now what apps do, how to keep devices secure and private, and what happens with their data. Business has taken advantage of that - people want things to "just work" so business use that as a way to abuse users and make every app a trojan horse for data mining.

Even Google, Apple etc privacy settings are bullshit - they're just figleafs of psuedo privacy that enable them as the platform makers to dictate the terms.

I switched away from Windows to Linux on PC, and I use FOSS alternatives on my Android device (even considering replacing android with FOSS system - difficult with some work essential apps unfortunately). But even if you stay on windows/android there are plenty of things users can do to protect themselves - they just don't know how or worse can't be bothered by the whole issue.

[–] SteefLem 53 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I think i read somewhere that the cia said they dont install bugs anymore because now ppl do that themselfs.

[–] Mostly_Gristle 56 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I've read a bunch of articles over the last few years about how a lot of law enforcement agencies are finding that instead of getting a warrant and doing a bunch of surveillance they can just buy people's private data from a data broker and get more info than they would have been able, or allowed, to gather if they'd gotten the warrant.

[–] T156 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's also a lot easier to do it in software, since you don't need to splice wires and leave physical traces like you would have had to do in the day.

A well-configured charger or Flash drive can do that job for you, and can spread itself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] T156 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, since most modern chargers and cables have internal chips to communicate capabilities with for things like fast-charging. It is not difficult to have the chip identify itself as something else, and execute a payload.

A common attack method is to have it show up as a keyboard, and execute a series of key-sequences when connected to a computer (like opening and executing things through a command prompt).

It is also why you should try and avoid plugging random USB cables/chargers into your phone/computer when out and about, since you don't exactly know if the other end is what it appears to be.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So I’m pretty averse to getting new apps and giving them location permissions.

Just cause of this comment I went it and looked at the location permissions, holy shit so many apps had it that shouldn’t have. Like Apple home… wtf does it need location for, it uses wifi…

[–] sudo42 52 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If there's anyone here that cares about their privacy and doesn't know this already:

If you have a choice between accessing the website through a browser and installing an app, use the browser. Browsers (typically) at least try to protect the types of information that gets sent, whereas there are much fewer restrictions (again, typically) for apps.

Everyone wants you to install apps because apps (typically) get access to much more data.

[–] ForgotAboutDre 32 points 5 months ago

The worst is many of these apps are just websites repackaged as apps. They just want the elevated access being an app gives them.

[–] feedum_sneedson 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, when I was setting up my first smartphone there was a very weird moment where I had to go against a lifetime of training on laptops and desktop PCs and just immediately invite every single app to fuck me up the arse if I wanted it to function as anything more than an expensive telephone with a fancy screen. But invite them up my arse I did.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of that Futurama clip from over 20 years ago where Fry is on the internet and a literal mob of advertisements surround him.

[–] slumlordthanatos 13 points 5 months ago

My God...it's full of ~~stars~~ ads!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It was considered best practice to never install anything

In what universe? You might as well never turn on your computer.

[–] TrickDacy 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this post makes a good point but sounds a little like the writer did not experience what they claim to. WeatherBug was buggy slow bullshit and everyone installed it anyway. it was only people who noticed details who saw how sluggish it made your PC. To this day I've never heard a single person talk about it getting your location being a problem, until now. That's a good point I guess but I just don't think it was on many people's radars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I installed all kinds of stuff, but the metric was if it slowed down my PC or especially my games. That'd get me to uninstall, run antivirus and/or anti-malware, or even totally reinstall Windows real quick.

[–] TrickDacy 5 points 5 months ago

Exactly! We weren't yet used to companies spying on us and computers were on the slow side anyhow

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It really feels like the OP didn't have older people in their life with browsers with 3 or more toolbars that you had to service every other month. 😅

People clicked yes to everything. Just like they do now. Nothing has changed.

[–] Aux 3 points 5 months ago

3? More like 33!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

In this universe. I didnt want to have 10 fucking different toolbars for my browser. You had to see the correct download button, so that you get your wanted download plus malware/viruses. If you got the wrong you got a lot of malware xD

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

shit like this is why im going to eventually create my own little internet island.

Dw, i'm going to rule over it like a dictator, no democracy here :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Do it. It's so nice.

Use Wireguard to access it remotely.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have a theory that this is the next iteration of Internet. A private internet linked by vpn over the public Internet. Probably already exists in some form over Tor or in dusty Pirate communities. All we need is a no-commercial-entities clause and a Yahoo clone and we could rock like it's 1994!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

oh i've already got that part setup. I'm talking about exposing it to the wider world so i can create my own little internet cult.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

dw, the only rule is that i'm the dictator.

[–] Badeendje 15 points 5 months ago

Bonzi buddy

[–] simin 4 points 5 months ago

by this logic AAVs equivalent for ads will come into existence in a couple years... maybe its already here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Very articulate. Appreciate the post.

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