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TikTok is taking the US government to court.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (68 children)

Every negative thing about Tiktok is also true about Instagram and Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

TikTok is solely responsible for that AI voice. Instagram and Twitter have never done anything that compares to the pain and suffering that has caused to humanity.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (4 children)

TikTok blocks all access from Hong Kong. Can I sue them?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not as a foreign national.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And not as a Hong-Konger, if you don't want your family on a blacklist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Read that as family in a basket. Close enough.

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[–] Mrkawfee 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good. The ban is censorship dressed up as national security.

[–] TrickDacy 73 points 6 months ago (10 children)

TikTok is state sponsored spyware dressed up as fUnNy ViDeOs

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] TrickDacy 26 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Shit I forgot the us government owns 50% of Facebook

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (15 children)

Access to the data it's what matters, ownership is just one method of access.

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[–] Mrkawfee 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They don't need to. Facebook plays ball.

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[–] atrielienz 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I have a question for you. What is the difference between Google being banned in China and Tik Tok being banned in the US?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

So is Instagram

[–] trolololol 20 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Can I ban NSA from spying on me? I'm not even on fReEeDoOoOoM land, I should be entitled to some amount of privacy

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[–] atx_aquarian 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

What would give them standing? They'd have to be an entity protected by the constitution to claim that protection was harmed. Is it this (Wikipedia)?

TikTok Ltd was incorporated in the Cayman Islands and is based in both Singapore and Los Angeles. source

I guess I've never thought about what makes an entity have rights here. Buckingham Palace couldn't just open shop here and start suing our government, right?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The case is essentially "hey you kinda passed a bill that's against your own constitution? You're kinda supposed to follow that..."

[–] TheGrandNagus 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Does the US constitution apply for rights of businesses, or is it just people?

Not being snarky I actually don't know

[–] unphazed 22 points 6 months ago

Corporations are people. Thanks to Citizens United. Though I'd gladly give up TikTok for the court to reverse this decision.

[–] FrostKing 9 points 6 months ago

Important rights of businesses in the US constitution include

Important note regarding a business's right to regulate free speech: The rules of the Constitution are meant to regulate Congress, not businesses or citizens. Therefore, the right to free speech means Congress cannot restrict someone from speaking his or her mind, but a business may be able to.

For example, a radio show has the right to not allow a certain person to speak on its program or to say certain things. Ultimately, such issues are decided by the Supreme Court, and there may be some exceptions, depending on the circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

The constitution applies to the government, not the American (or other) people. “Government shall pass no law…”

[–] yildolw 8 points 6 months ago

List of companies incorporated in the Cayman Islands: https://capedge.com/company/by/incState/E9/active/true?sort=latestQuote.marketCap

Mostly obscure to me, but I looked up GlobalFoundries. Originally divested from AMD, bought IBM's chip business, got a contract from US Department of Defense in 2023 for manufacturing military chips

I imagine you wouldn't object to GlobalFoundries suing the US government

[–] trolololol 4 points 6 months ago

Of course, corporations are people and this is bigotry. Check mate.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

grabs popcorn

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

as expected, they literally said they would pusue legal options before pulling out of the us.

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[–] yuki2501 20 points 6 months ago (11 children)

At this point, I'd like to ask: If a foreign company threatens democracy in a country, is it legal for the executive to ban business with that company?

No? Then that doesn't make sense. It's a FOREIGN company, the government should have the right to do whatever it needs to protect its citizens in that regard.

[–] UnpluggedFridge 8 points 6 months ago

This is the real question. Is there a loophole that allows foreign governments to freely exercise mass surveillance and psyops if they allow US citizens to post on a blackboard outside their offices?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 6 months ago

When does a company care about the constitution? When it’s profits are threatened and the constitution suits their argument.

[–] Etterra 5 points 6 months ago

Down with vertical videos, down with short form content!

PS, China already bought all your personal data from Facebook.

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