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[-] [email protected] 191 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not a protest if it doesn't inconvenience who you're protesting. All real protesters are arrested, because they inconvenience power (who have but the way made all inconvenient protests illegal).

I'm proud of these guys for standing up for what they believe in. Solidarity.

[-] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago

Protest should intend on being an inconvenience, though arrest should be avoided if at all possible. It absolutely kills longevity and leads to people making arrest a core intention while rambling about non-violence. Really what you want is to have strategy and numbers that spook cops enough to not bother because they won't if they think its going to be too much trouble for them.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Agreed. I didn't mean to imply arrest was the goal but rather a common side-effect of effective protest.

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[-] GrymEdm 120 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 91 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sounds like they were arrested for trespassing because they were protesting inside the CEOs office amongst other places.

At stake is that this cloud technology will be used for military applications by IDF and ultimately help perpetuate genocide .

[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago

Inconveniencing protests that go unrecognized or are criminalized lead to the next step: industrial sabotage.

Maybe Google needs to lose a few servers to captured NSO malware.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Well they actually changed the motto because "don't be evil" was too ambiguous. The motto now is "do the right thing". It's now okay to be evil, as long as you're "doing the right thing".

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[-] bitwaba 9 points 1 month ago

Use two tildes (~) before and after:

Google: don't be ~~evil~~

Google: don't be ~~evil~~

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

more like google: ~~dont~~ be evil

[-] bitwaba 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't know, I kind of like the idea of someone deciding their company motto is to not exist at all.

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[-] T00l_shed 6 points 1 month ago

Don't be? Evil! A la Lionel Hutz

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Say hello to Miguel Sanchez.

[-] MeanEYE 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Good luck with that sentiment. People tried to boycott products made or designed in Israel and then realized it's near impossible. Edit: Found a list

[-] Burn_The_Right 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That list is not "products made or designed in Israel". That list is just companies that support Israel.

I just don't want anyone to have the false impression that a relationship with Israel is necessary. It definitely is not.

[-] local_taxi_fix 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's impossible to target all of them, yes. But that's why BDS creates a targeted list of the worst offenders to concentrate consumer boycott pressure.

Currently the BDS list includes 8 targets, including HP, Sabra, Siemens, Puma, and Soda stream. https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

do steal them though. stealing them is good.

edit: this got down votes? let me explain: if you just dont buy them, someone else can. If you steal them, then whatever middleman spends the cost but doesn't make the profit. if lots of people steal them, the insurance on that cargo/merchandise goes up. it gets more expensive and eventually market forces mean those products won't get stocked, when theres any alternative.

which means they get less. you not having to go without, or even making a profit, is just a nice bonus.

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[-] paddirn 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From "Don't be evil" to now, "Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb".

[-] KonalaKoala 7 points 1 month ago

Last time I heard a line like that is by Dark Helmet in Space Balls.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who would've thought an evil company would mistreat its employees. They literally work for a corporation whose main business involves violating your human rights, if they really care they wouldn't have worked there in the first place.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Instead they should just work for all those good companies that's everywhere under capitalism. Workers don't have a say in company policy and companies are as bad as they can be. The fact that nestle murder more people than Fazer , isn't about that one is more "evil" than the other, it's what they can get away with. Evil is a childish concept.

[-] Son_of_dad 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Seems misleading, as I highly doubt they were charged with "protesting contract with Israel". Is that a misdemeanor?

Also love that Google workers suddenly grew a conscience

[-] GeneralVincent 27 points 1 month ago

It's a trespassing charge from what I could find. Although there are laws against boycotting Israel


[-] Maggoty 8 points 1 month ago

The anti BDS laws are relevant to companies, not workers. Though it is still hilarious to me that we can't have religious freedom because companies have a first amendment right however they can't exercise that right in regards to Israel.

The GOP is just so transparently making shit up as they go along for their own convenience.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Thats so wild

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 6 points 1 month ago

Yes. All 28 of them. Out of what, 180,000-ish?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Am I being an idiot for thinking that protesting like this, when the union is relatively small is counterproductive? I'd think I'd want to represent the majority of the workers, then protest or outright strike which will halt the cloud operations they want to halt, if that's what the majority of union members vote to do.

[-] Wrench 39 points 1 month ago

Well, it made the national news, so seems like it was somewhat effective.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm sure they'd love to have enough supporters to do a general strike, and those have been proposed and attempted over Gaza. Unfortunately, opposing Israel's genocidal actions is not the mainstream view... especially being opposed enough to participate in activism. With only a handful of people, these sit-ins were able to disrupt the company and make news.

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