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‘The machine did it coldly’: Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 6 months ago by RubberDuck to c/world

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[–] BeatTakeshi 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“I would invest 20 seconds for each target at this stage, and do dozens of them every day. I had zero added-value as a human, apart from being a stamp of approval. It saved a lot of time.”

“Because we usually carried out the attacks with dumb bombs, and that meant literally dropping the whole house on its occupants. But even if an attack is averted, you don’t care – you immediately move on to the next target. Because of the system, the targets never end. You have another 36,000 waiting.”

Are we still supposed to believe that the pursuit of AI development is for the good of Humanity?

Fuck you Google for opening Nimbus to the IDF, via a contract that contains a clause saying that you can't break it whatever the reason. Fucking moronic disgrace to humanity all you bunch

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 5 points 6 months ago

~~Don't~~ be evil

Updated the slogan, boss

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Another case where AI is used as a slick marketing term for a black box. A box in which humans selected indiscriminate bombing and genocide. Sure there is new technology used, but at the end of the day it is just military industry marketing to justify humans mass murdering other humans.

[–] Deestan 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's phrenology again.

You really want to do something, but it feels evil and you don't want to be evil so you slap some pseudoscience on it and relax. It's done for Reasons now.

[–] JackFrostNCola 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Man, Black Mirror just writes itself these days

[–] cosmicrookie 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We were just following orders (from the AI).

Its almost funny isn't it?

[–] ceenote 17 points 6 months ago

Skynet won't need terminators. Fascists are much cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the ai:

def is_hamas(target):
  return True

[–] cone_zombie 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

if is_hamas(new_target):

    x1 = new_target.x - 1000
    y1 = new_target.y - 1000
    x2 = new_target.x + 1000
    y2 = new_target.y + 1000

    airstrike(x1, y1, x2, y2, phosphorus=True)

[–] FlyingSquid 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe don't use something that is rarely discussed without using the word "hallucination" in your plans to FUCKING KILL PEOPLE?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This AI isn't a LLM.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This AI isn't even an AI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I mean, it probably has a neural network component.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't mean that it won't hallucinate. Or whatever you call an AI making up crap.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

LLM's hallucinate all the time. The hallucination is the feature. Depending on how you design the neural network you can get an AI that doesn't hallucinate. LLM's have to do that, because they're mimicking human speech patterns and predicting one of my possible responses.

A model that tries to predict locations of people likely wouldn't work like that.

[–] laughterlaughter 2 points 6 months ago

"likely."

[–] laughterlaughter 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Other AI systems can have hallucinations too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The primary feature of LLM's is the hallucination.

[–] Whirling_Cloudburst 17 points 6 months ago

We warned the world over ten years ago that this shit was going to happen. It will only get worse when AI drone swarms can be deployed on the cheap.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Responding to the publication of the testimonies in +972 and Local Call, the IDF said in a statement that its operations were carried out in accordance with the rules of proportionality under international law. It said dumb bombs are “standard weaponry” that are used by IDF pilots in a manner that ensures “a high level of precision”.

Fucking lmao

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I wonder how many of the "Hamas targets" are children? Is it higher or lower than 36,999?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The Israeli military’s bombing campaign in Gaza used a previously undisclosed AI-powered database that at one stage identified 37,000 potential targets based on their apparent links to Hamas, according to intelligence sources involved in the war.

In addition to talking about their use of the AI system, called Lavender, the intelligence sources claim that Israeli military officials permitted large numbers of Palestinian civilians to be killed, particularly during the early weeks and months of the conflict.

Israel’s use of powerful AI systems in its war on Hamas has entered uncharted territory for advanced warfare, raising a host of legal and moral questions, and transforming the relationship between military personnel and machines.

The testimony from the six intelligence officers, all who have been involved in using AI systems to identify Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) targets in the war, was given to the journalist Yuval Abraham for a report published by the Israeli-Palestinian publication +972 Magazine and the Hebrew-language outlet Local Call.

According to conflict experts, if Israel has been using dumb bombs to flatten the homes of thousands of Palestinians who were linked, with the assistance of AI, to militant groups in Gaza, that could help explain the shockingly high death toll in the war.

Experts in international humanitarian law who spoke to the Guardian expressed alarm at accounts of the IDF accepting and pre-authorising collateral damage ratios as high as 20 civilians, particularly for lower-ranking militants.

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