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FAQ

Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

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[–] LemmyKnowsBest 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

I'm pretty sure they left the Electoral College out of this hypothetical scenario. Because the reality is, no matter how the general population votes, the Electoral College makes the ultimate decision. So the electoral College mightve decided to go for ice cream even though most people wanted to go off a cliff or didn't care at all.

And even more realistic, the only two options would have been 1) going off a cliff or 2) exploding into flames. because those are fair analogies for the options we have for US president these days.

And that's why so many people don't want to vote. I don't want to go off a cliff or burst into flames. No. I don't want either of those things.

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[–] Etterra 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thus is the problem with our broken, binary choice system. Ranked voting may not be perfect, but it is exceeding better than the me we have now.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

Or, more realistically:

  • 3 vote to drive off the cliff
  • 2 vote for ice-cream
  • 4 vote to drive off the cliff at a slightly reduced speed, having been assured that they might get to look at a picture of some ice-cream, but only after democracy has been saved
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (8 children)

this is why you do preferential voting

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

yeah let me just get right on that

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I'm a fan of harm reduction. There might still be harm, but it's more limited than it was previously.

It's not the whole solution and always needs further actions at the end of the day, but it's movement in the right direction.

Far better than just coasting along waiting for things to get worse.

[–] Noodle07 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

For all the fatalists I'll bring beer so we can watch the world burn together after you've voted

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Four people vote for driving off a cliff. Three vote for driving into a wall. Two vote for getting ice cream.

Everybody on the bus dies. You blame the people who voted for ice cream.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This is written from an "I'm right, you're wrong" perspective. In real life, no one is running a drive off a cliff campaign, and the guy promising ice cream may not be able to deliver.

Also, fundamentally both left and right can make the argument the other side wants to run off a cliff.

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[–] Hildegarde 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is a good metaphor on voting. You are not the driver, you are a passenger. Your choices cannot change the route.

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