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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Lazylazycat to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Please everyone if you’re not using something like Ublock Origin (best in the game imo) you’re doing the internet wrong.

Some say they play ads to support content creators but they make almost nothing from them because Google is so greedy. Best way to support them is direct, $5 on buy me a coffee or a patreon subscription.

[–] Lazylazycat 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with you, don't shout at me please 😭 I just can't use ublock on my TV and I'm too lazy to plug my laptop in.

[–] Albinoghost 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you have a smart tv or nvidia shield that can sideload apps, I recommend SmartTube

https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTubeNext

[–] Zirconium 6 points 1 year ago

You can side load on Roku too? Literally tried googling this and every thread was like "not possible"

[–] Lazylazycat 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you. It's a really old smart TV though and it just has a handful of pre-selected apps you can install.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~A pihole then?~~ my bad, it can't.

[–] pikachus_ghost_uncle 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have pihole setup and it doesn’t seem to block YouTube ads on my mibox. Is there an entry I need to add to block them?

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[–] rajdidaj 9 points 1 year ago

If it's an android tv, install smarttubenext and never look back.

[–] SuddenDownpour 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whenever possible, just pay them directly through PayPal or a similar service. Out of the money you pay to someone on Patreon, the creator usually ends up with less than 50% due to VAT, payment processor fees, Patreon fees, and income tax. By skipping Patreon, the creator doesn't lose out to VAT and Patreon fees.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

More creators need to start using Liberapay. It's a non-profit organization that funds itself via donations, so the only fees it charges are the ones being passed through from the underlying payment processor. It also avoids VAT by prohibiting creators from offering anything in exchange for payment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also, firefox on android (and I suspect iOS) allows you to install extensions including ad blockers.

Faster, saves battery, prevents sites from breaking on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not on iOS, because Apple forces all browsers on iOS to just be safari with a different look

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take a look at "vinegar" in the app store. It's a safari extension that changes the video tag on youtube videos and removes the ads.

I don't explain it well, and it costs money (fyi), but it's working for me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, for mobile there's revanced.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And uYou+ for iOS.

[–] ki77erb 6 points 1 year ago

I just pay $11 for YouTube premium. I did it entirely for YouTube Music (Google Music) but the ad free YouTube was just a nice bonus.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

even giving just 1 dollar is equal to about 50-500 views

[–] sagrotan 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or New Pipe on phone. It's quite a while since I saw any ad on YT.

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[–] Speculater 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Black Mirror had an episode about this!

[–] ShakyPerception 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just thinking, wasn’t there something a out having to watch ads, and if you looked away the ad would stop until your eyes returned to the screen….

[–] Speculater 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, you either pay to skip the ad or have to watch it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Speculater 4 points 1 year ago

"Enable eye tracking and get a free sub to gift every month!"

[–] leinheart 18 points 1 year ago

DRINK VERIFICATION CAN

[–] samokosik 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don’t buy youtube premium

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Adblock detection was a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My petty revolt is to rapidly tap the corner where the skip button usually is. I KNOW they’re seeing that on their analytics. Assholes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If you keep on closing the YouTube app, and clicking on the URL, eventually after 2 or 3 tries the YouTube app won't have an ad it will go straight to the video. Saves a lot of time especially if there's 2 ads.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

UBlock origin extension, and while not necessary, I also recommend Firefox browser

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Edit: ok your comments just made me buy a cheap android TV box

That's a terrible idea; those things all run hacked firmware from China with preinstalled malware. (There's a fairly recent Linus Tech Tips video about it if you want more info.)

Instead, you need to be buying hardware from a reputable brand and then (ideally) installing a Free Software OS on it yourself, e.g. a Raspberry Pi running LibreELEC.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yeah, when youtubers started complaining that adblock is "theft", this was a logical continuation. like, the purpose of an ad is to inform me about something i probably wish not to be informed about, and for that you get paid. but what if i don't watch the ad? the system will still think i watched it, you will still get paid, but the advertiser will not have received the product they paid for. is not looking at an ad "theft" too? are we going to have devices measure attention?

this isn't a new concept, by the way. spotify had an experiment a while back about pausing ads if you mute them (might actually just be how it works now, idk, i decided not to use spotify back when they did this, and when they banned adblock users). there's also the "verification can" story, which is yes, satire, but it shows that the technology exists. telly's "free" tv (that has a second screen for ads, and afaik can't be turned off, just turned into ad-only mode) also has presence detection in the room, and could trivially implement attention detection as well. qualcomm also proposed always-on cameras for phones a few years back, specifically for eye tracking, "for security", which certainly won't be used for punishing banner blindness. not on google's os! they definitely don't run the largest online ad network after all.

and if you're against this, but believe adblock is a problem because people aren't paid for ads if they can't display the ads, you don't really care about theft. specifically, you don't really care if the product advertisers pay for is stolen from them, as long as they're forced to pay for a worthless return. and sure, fuck the advertising industry, i'm right there with you -- but that's precisely why i do use adblock. there is no alignment here that's consistent with insisting on propping up that industry but harming its consumer.

but at the end of the day, what is the product advertisers pay for? is it that the ads is technically delivered to you, even if you cast it aside? if they deliver paper-based junk mail, am i immoral to have a robot throw it out, rather than do it manually? or is the product that i read their junk mail? is there a moral imperative to engage in a fair discussion with them, to honestly consider their point? because, at the end of the day, they pay for all this, so where is the line?

my line, in particular, is that they can try on an individual scale, but i'm keeping the robot around to yeet their junk mail, and on a societal scale i would like to see the advertising industry disbanded for the harm it causes in market manipulation, surveillance, and adverse psychological effects. but i also don't consider adblock "theft" so it's pretty clear we're not talking about my set of principles. i really would like to see what a person who considers adblock theft actually thinks about all these topics, beyond a simplistic view about youtube creators. if you expand your ideology to other situations, where does it take you?

[–] samus12345 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's why advertisers shouldn't care about ad blockers - they prevent them from wasting money showing an ad to someone who isn't interested.

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[–] Fapper_McFapper 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at me. Look at me! Look at meeeeee!

[–] Lazylazycat 5 points 1 year ago

I've got one thing to say to you!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YouTube: Please enter the phone number of the company in the ad to proceed

[–] doppelgangmember 4 points 1 year ago

Easy... clicks mute

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