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[–] [email protected] 128 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] fvmast 16 points 9 months ago

Opened the post to see this, I’m not disappointed

[–] nuggsy 67 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if that's the threat they think it is?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Seems to me like just a clickbaity headline. The article reads more like they're simply stating they'd rather not participate than change the song, whether anyone cares about their participation or not.

[–] Omgarm -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They usually are a decent entry so quality wise it would be. But morally it would not be.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

Who watches Eurovision for the quality though?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This year's entry sounds pretty horrendous:

Described as a "moving and powerful ballad" the song is based around the refrain "I'm still wet from this October rain".

In the verse, Golan sings: "Who told you boys don't cry/ Hours and hours/ And flowers/ Life is not a game for the cowards."

The reference to flowers is significant, according to Israel Hayom, as it is military slang for war fatalities.

The song then ends in Hebrew: "There's no air left to breathe/ There's no place/ No me, from day to day."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Netanyahu's manifesto.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's a weird byline for BBC to offer, tldr:

Israel has a song with veiled references to the October 7th Hamas attack, Eurovision has a very strict policy on zero political implications in performed songs, Israel says that if the song isn't performed, then they cannot compete.

Not that they will not or do not want to or are starting a boycott, just that if their song is not approved, they won't replace it and therefore cannot compete.

Which is fine.

The spin seems unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

According to what definition? They're not saying it's a protest or punishment, they're just not planning to compete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That user is a known shill, posting wildly different views probably paid for by different groups. Ignore them

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ban them like they did the Russians

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It's abit more complicated. Russia wasnt banned from participating in the Song Contest itself. Rather, the EBU has suspended the Russian broadcasters' memberships because of finding them spread propaganda. Which automatically means they cant participate.

In the case of Israel, if theh want to look into suspending Kan they need to find evidence that the broadcaster is not holding up to the standards of public broadcasting. And EBU hasn't done so in the cases of Turkey's TRT, Azerbaijan's broadcasters and similar cases where the country clearly has been committing war crimes recently.

[–] feedum_sneedson -5 points 9 months ago

You're not allowed, they were attacked first and they're Jewish. But they should really stop with the scorched earth tactics, if that's what's actually happening - I don't know what reports to believe.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way. Or do, it'll be funnier.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think Israel actually wants to compete this year, tbh. We all know the vote ain't gonna be pretty. Don't think the Eurovision organisation want them to compete either, too much controversy, but they don't want the fallout from actually banning them.

So the EBC will be strict on their conditions, while still claiming not to have banned them, and Israel can get to withdraw out of principle. Win win.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are you saying if Israel competes the UK might get points this year?!?!?

[–] buzziebee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's possible for two countries to get nil points

[–] Treczoks 4 points 9 months ago

Three, counting in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Yes, and this won't do

[–] cosmicrookie 21 points 9 months ago

Somehow I wish they show, and get booed so bad that they can't finish their act

[–] merthyr1831 19 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Okay! Absolutely nothing of value will be lost so by all means, go ahead!

[–] TheGrandNagus 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As if they wouldn't be in dead last anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

And that's assuming they make it through the semis, I'm thinking there'll probably be a lot of tactical voting in that semi-final to try and keep them down and disqualified. And with this even that might be uncertain.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

LOL. do it. it wont be pretty anymore with israel anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Israel once again going for the "rules for thee but not for me" approach.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA 5 points 9 months ago

Oh no….. please……don’t