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[–] SkybreakerEngineer 72 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I write these words in steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be trusted.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's a Mistborn reference isn't it? That sentence seems familiar

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

"What's a few words changed here and there among friends?" - Ruin, probably.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

I am afraid, however, that all I have known - that my story - will be forgotten. I am afraid for the world that is to come. Afraid that Alendi will fail. Afraid of a doom brought by the Deepness.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Metals oxidize. You need a ceramic encased in a carefully constructed glass.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

It's a reference to the Mistborn series of books.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Would papyrus sealed in clay jars in a cave high in the mountains above a dead sea be okay?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

If you are lucky

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[–] TheMinions 4 points 7 months ago

I knew this was going to be top comment.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I thought you would have linked 1683: Digital Data

[–] SpruceBringsteen 41 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The last one is actually a real example, right?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a real reference.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-nāṣir

"Inscribed on it is a complaint to Ea-nāṣir about a copper delivery of the incorrect grade and issues with another delivery"

[–] chetradley 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It worked perfectly 3,774 years later and people still don't want to buy copper from this guy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Fun Fact:

Native Americans near Eagle Lake in Wisconsin were some of the earliest metal workers in the world, what is known as the Old Copper Culture. We have copper artifacts from them that are at least 8500 years old.

We have arrowheads, knives, axes, etc, but metal working just... Died out.

The leading theory?

The copper was too pure. Various impurities are what give copper strength, it's quite malleable as a pure metal.

They were doing all this work to make tools not significantly better than flint, so when the easiest sources dried up they just stopped bothering.

The earliest bronze examples are actually made from a copper ore that included arsenic or tin already, and natural ores that include enough of either are quite rare, and they just weren't available to the Old Copper Culture, and without that initial accident of geology they had no way of knowing that adding specific impurities would make the metal stronger, or even a tin mine for it to happen through experimentation.

TL;DR don't be too mean to Ea-Nasir, guy's copper might have just been too pure. Like you've never seen a customer ask for a different product than they actually wanted!

[–] brianorca 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I was just reading about how Michigan had a volcano which deposited large amounts of nearly pure copper, and even some naturally alloyed bronze.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Geological activity gouged some crazy deep holes and dumped everything on top. Basically the entire upper peninsula was scooped out of lake Superior, flipped over and dumped on the ground, which is why there's a bunch of metal everywhere up there.

Also some of the oldest exposed stone on the planet. Nothing too useful about it beyond "my, that's a very old stone", but it's a vaguely fun fact.

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[–] chetradley 4 points 7 months ago

I like my ingots pure. I can mix in the alloys myself!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/complaint-tablet-to-ea-nasir has the translation.

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

[email protected]

There's even a community just for memes about it!

[–] ReputedlyDeplorable 40 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"I write these words in steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be trusted."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've been re-reading WoA the past week and as soon as I saw this post I was like "holy shit Kwaan is on tumbler!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Well of Ascension

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Haha, I came in here to comment the same exact thing.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bamboozled again by Ea-Nasir

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 9 points 7 months ago

The intent was to give people a sense of pride and accomplishment for making anything useful out of sub-standard copper.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Future archaeologists will wonder at how 'literally' became defined as its own antonym, and why there were no other adverbs for a decade.

[–] fidodo 5 points 7 months ago

It's hyperbole

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Funnily enough, digital signals/data can actually be preserved perfectly and indefinitely because of its property perfect regeneration. Most efficient way to do it is to replicate it before it decays below regeneration. That one star review can outlast any stone tablet if it keeps on being copied.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)
[–] apemint 23 points 7 months ago

It started as a joke but nowadays more and more old memes and screenshots can only be found in conditions like the last panel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago
[–] Olmai 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Most things last very long if stored properly. People tend to not do that, though. Probably why low-maintenance, high-permanence formats tend to keep the best.

[–] agent_flounder 7 points 7 months ago

Sure. But I thought it was assumed that we were talking about writing that would survive without any additional interaction for extended periods.

If nobody is there to refresh the digital data, tablets, and papyrus, two of these will last millennia, one won't even make two centuries.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

We could store words on paper indefinitely if we keep copying it to fresh paper every so offen.

Obviously thats not practical or guaranteed for all of future history.

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[–] fidodo 12 points 7 months ago

That would be a good thing for historians so they'll be able to know for a fact that we had nothing interesting to say.

[–] Steveanonymous 6 points 7 months ago

Full circle

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Now that you mention it, are there laser etching, or engraving tools that may be available outside of industrial applications should one want to record their silly thoughts in a more permanent form?

[–] SpruceBringsteen 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're not cheap, but you can definitely get a very capable laser set up nowadays that you could etch a non corrosive material with. Some are pretty cool and even are able to etch curved surfaces rather easily on the user end.

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[–] SanndyTheManndy 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Doubt laser could etch deep enough to survive wear and tear for thousands of years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, we have thousand years old paper and clay tablets.

I'd be less worried about the depth of the laser than the depth of the corrosion that the metal might face over time.

Glass or ceramic might work better.

[–] SanndyTheManndy 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

laser etched ceramic is just modern clay tablets

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] mbgid 5 points 7 months ago

Fast forward 400 years and a new religion gets started when someone unearths the metal blog tablets.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I imagine that, given enough time, fundamentalist religious assholes will figure out a way to destroy everything, including themselves.

[–] geogle 7 points 7 months ago

Huh? What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

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