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[–] Rapidcreek 133 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you think standing up for our allies is expensive..wait to see what happens when you abandon them.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago

This is the refrain of conservatism. If you think carbon taxes are expensive, wait for climate change, social programs... Crime, healthcare... Death. They do not actually give a shit about expense.

[–] Burn_The_Right 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Conservatives do not see Europe as our allies. The GOP famously despises Europe and would very much like to see Putin take control of it.

[–] cabron_offsets 121 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The sooner we disabuse ourselves of the foolish idea that republicans work for America, the better off we’ll be.

[–] PilferJynx 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I just don't understand why Trump is simping so hard for Putin. These Maga fascists are just blindly following that asshole.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jerkface 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They want it. These people are fed up with democracy.

[–] hydrospanner 11 points 9 months ago

When democracy sees them losing power, rather than adjusting their platform or working toward compromise, their decision has always been to subvert the system. Gerrymandering, voter restrictions, election fraud, insurrection, and openly courting the enemies of the country are all preferable to losing power, to these people.

In a country where democracy makes their kind a minority, it's democracy that must yield to them, not the other way around. They're only American as long as doing so gets them their way.

[–] Jerkface 5 points 9 months ago
[–] FlyingSquid 106 points 9 months ago (2 children)

1930s appeasers thought Hitler was willing to draw a line and stop at some point too.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago

These aren't just appeasers we're dealing with. These are silver shirts.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 8 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure most of hardcore Maga and the Freedom Caucus are fine with Hitler. Jan 6th was their Beer Hall Putsch. The ones who find Hitler a bit extreme have no objection to Franco, Pinochet, or Mussolini.

[–] Burn_The_Right 4 points 9 months ago

U.S. Congress is not to blame. U.S. conservatives in congress are to blame.

The GOP works hard to support Putin. Delaying/denying any defense of Ukraine is a huge win for them as they support Putin's efforts to invade Europe.

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