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[–] themeatbridge 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear, we are well beyond the tipping point, have fallen off the cliff, and watching the Atlantic currents collapse is like seeing rocks hitting the ground before you do. "Oh, look, the ground approaches rapidly, and everything that hits it at this speed will be pulverized."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

global tipping point, yes, buy when the Atlantic Conveyor breaks down, that's very special tipping point that fucks up a lot of things severely and quickly...

[–] themeatbridge 22 points 9 months ago

Right, but calling it a tipping point implies we have a chance to prevent it.

Like in a movie where the bus is teetering on the edge of a cliff, and there's an anvil falling from the sky about to hit the back of the bus and knock it over the edge, you wouldn't say "Well the bus has almost reached its tipping point."

Or maybe a better analogy is a set of dominoes where you are looking at this one domino that knocks down the grand finale, but the dominoes leading to that one are already falling and have been for a long time. The collapse of the Atlantic conveyor is not the start of a chain reaction, it's just one really big link.

[–] Argonne 5 points 9 months ago

The Atlantic Conveyor will not stop. It will stop going to Europe though https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah

[–] oohgodyeah 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We are a plague on this blue ball spinning through space

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not really a problem for the blue ball though, they've been through worse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

We're really a plague on ourselves...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's the end of the world as we know it.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker 4 points 9 months ago

And IIIIIII feeeeeel crappy...

[–] Nudding 10 points 9 months ago

Nah, we're definitely a plague to the biosphere. 150 species driven to extinction every single day due to anthropogenic climate change. 70% of all species since our first steps 250000 years ago.

Fuck humanity.

[–] teamevil 7 points 9 months ago

A virus with shoes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Inanimate objects don't have problems. Not very insightful.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe let's consider fixing the climate? Just a thought

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

But then a handful of very wealthy people would have slightly less money in the short term. So billions must die.

[–] d33pblu3g3n3 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But what about the economy? The profits? The stock market?

/S

[–] thechadwick 8 points 9 months ago

Will no one think of the quarterly earnings reports? What the hell is wrong with you people?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not until any of this directly impacts people, like with famine, water scarcity, war, or panic from civilization collapse ... no one will care about what's going on with the world's oceans.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And then they'll beg their leaders to do what can no longer be done. One of the reasons we're heading down a very bad timeline is that many people really don't seem to get the notion of a problem that must be fixed before its effects hit, and can't be fixed once the effects are felt.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aren't people already begging leaders to help? But they're not listening?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's just us regular people begging tho, so nobody listens.

[–] Nudding 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe when one of Taylor Swift's vacation homes gets swept away we'll see some legislation passed about tires or some bullshit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just want to say, when I saw you were obsessed with Taylor Swift I immediately clicked to see if you’re a maga idiot. You do not disappoint at all.

[–] Nudding 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lmao obsessed with Swift am I? Maga idiot? I'll send you $100 if you can find 5 comments with Taylor Swift's name in them or one positive comment about trump, in my post history.

You guys sure aren't big on reading.

[–] andrewta 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just scrolled a long way back in your comment history and yeah I'm not sure where he's getting those ideas from.

[–] Nudding 0 points 9 months ago

There are stupid people on both sides of the aisle im afraid. Reactionaries Aplenty

[–] Augustiner 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It already does. Just not so much in the countries that are most responsible for the pollution.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Western nations will realize it soon enough.

“What surprised us was the rate at which tipping occurs,” said the paper’s lead author, René van Westen, of Utrecht University. “It will be devastating.”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I'm in FLORIDA the BASTION of FREE SPEECH and it's ILLEGAL to blame this on CC!

[–] Buddahriffic 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this one the one that when it's going we have livable temperatures in Europe and North America, but when it stops we get an ice age with glaciers and all that?

I wonder what the timeline is for something like that. Like how long between this current collapsing and glaciers making it to the great lakes?

[–] Argonne 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yes and no. It will have the greatest effect on the northern most counties like Sweden Finland Ireland, etc by at most 5-6C. France will be fine https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah

[–] afraid_of_zombies 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gotcha like always I am told that there is a problem coming but no one knows when exactly or how bad it will be or what I should do when it happens.

Yeps, life is good.

[–] Argonne 5 points 9 months ago

Welcome to the real world. It's not a game and we don't know the answers. That's partly why religion exists

[–] Buddahriffic 2 points 9 months ago

Ah right on, thanks for this video. Seems it was referring to the same thing I was thinking of but the sources for that other thing were wrong.

[–] BloodSlut 6 points 9 months ago
[–] Argonne 0 points 9 months ago

There's lots of misinformation on this topic. Yes, this stopping would be bad for Europe but hardly any apocalypse scenario. Here a scientist break it down : https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah