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Nintendo says it will overcome challenges of generational transition with ‘unique propositions’ | VGC (www.videogameschronicle.com)

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[–] BleatingZombie 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unique propositions

... is Mario going to try to pay me for sex?

[–] PlasticExistence 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Who wantsa moustache ride!?

[–] PHLAK 3 points 7 months ago

Wa-hoo!

[–] ViscloReader 6 points 7 months ago

I'm rather excited, I really wonder what they can pull of with this "new" tool. Maybe the first nintendo Rogue like?

[–] Zoomboingding 5 points 7 months ago

Honestly, this sounds like they won't have backwards compatibility. I wonder if the new system will be substantially different, like going from Gamecube to Wii.

[+] Squizzy -7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I wasn't impressed with Mario Wonder, if they make Mario boring then I don't have much hope for their next console. They have basically been getting by on their IP for a few generations now and that's not on a good projection now.

[–] echo64 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So whilst you obviously feel this way, it's good to hold perspective. Mario Wonder sold north of 12 million copies. It was a massive success.

If you're projecting from that, you should be projecting success even if you don't like it. I didn't even play it because it seems totally not for me. But it's silly to look at that success and say ,oooh, that's not good for them"

[–] slimerancher 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

An upvote for you, because you used "whilst" 😁

Out of curiosity, why did it seem not for you?

[–] echo64 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

oh it's very personal to me, not objective reasons at all.

I just didn't grow up with 2D Mario so I find the controls fairly annoying for 2D Mario controls (which everyone who has muscle memory loves so y'know, not objective it's still good controls for people who like them). And everything else seemed like gimmicks on top of that. Which I liked in games like the Rayman Legends, but not when it's built on a foundation I'm not into

[–] slimerancher 1 points 7 months ago

Makes sense. I don't have much nostalgia for 2D Marios too, and prefer 3D Mario over 2D one (having only played Mario Odyssey in 3D). Maybe that's why I didn't get Wonder day 1. Will still get it though.

Rayman Legends was really great! I keep hoping for a new one.

[–] Narann 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting. I think Mario Wonder was the best 2D Mario since Super Mario World. I didn’t like the physic on New Super Mario.

I also think Nintendo has some trouble with they IP on the long run.

[–] Carighan 8 points 7 months ago

Same, absolutely loved how wild and crazy they went with the underlying Mario mechanics. It felt like a real breath of fresh air, something I saw in lesser amounts in Odyssey already.

[+] [email protected] -12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Their unique propositions in generational transitions are what led to the creation of the WiiU.

Can you maybe do something less unique?

[–] Carighan 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And to the DS, the second-most sold console and just 0,6% behind the first.

And to the Switch, the third-most sold console, and ~10% behind the first.

And to the Gameboy, the fourth-most sold console.

And to the Famicom, which more or less recovered the video games industry after the crash for at-home video games.

You do realize that many of the features you think of as "less unique" are things that Nintendo thought of when they were highly unique, as they did them first?

[+] [email protected] -17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The famicom wasn't unique and the console didn't save the industry. What saved it was Nintendo's stringent eye for quality assurance and not letting any random developer make games for the system. The system itself is just a video game console with newer hardware than it's predecessors.

The Switch isn't unique, either. It's a culmination of other ideas that were unique prior to it being put into one unit. It didn't do anything new in and of itself. It's a Gameboy mixed with a WiiU.

The NDS isn't very unique either. It's a gameboy with a touch screen. The 3DS was more unique while also not being new, just using a gimmick piece of tech that, by most accounts, wasn't very widely used by players because it was headache inducing. Touch screens and glasses free 3D screens were already things in other hardware, just not used for game systems.

I see you left out the Virtual Boy, which actually was unique for the time. Too bad it sucked.

Their idea of uniqueness in hardware is just novelty and gimmicks, and has only been a success once. With the Wii and its motion control systems.

[–] Carighan 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your definition of "unique" seems to BE that it's a crappy gimmick nobody liked and hence the console failed. A bit putting the cart in front of the horse, isn't it?

[–] TAG 0 points 7 months ago

Making unique systems is part of Nintendo's identity. Xbox and PlayStation compete on maximizing specs and slowly evolving features (though even they throw in one or two gimmicks per generation). Nintendo competes on creating new experiences that draw in people outside of core gamers. The Wii was about using motion controls to draw in people who don't want to waggle a joystick. The WiiU was about asymmetrical user experience. The Switch (like the GameCube) is about bringing the games to social situations (the opposite of other systems emphasis on online gaming).

Overall, as someone who is not a hardcore gamer, I love the Nintendo philosophy. It encourages developers to experiment with the hardware and create novel interactive experiences.

I am not saying that you are wrong for wanting a more powerful system, but I would be disappointed with a Nintendo system that does not have a big gimmick.