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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say it's insane for a republican to be racist. Obviously racist? Sure. But not insane.

[–] morphballganon 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something being expected does not make it sane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think sanity or Insanity is linked to being mentally abnormal, not normal, while this disappointing behavior and state of mind is pretty normal.

I don't consider racism abnormal since it's so common, or a mental illness; racism is a frightened, prejudiced reaction to differences.

Offensive and unwelcome, but very common in a normal state of mind.

I guess you could say the rant was insane, because he doesn't seem to understand the consequences of being so openly racist.

But it isn't like you have to be in a mental institution to hear a racist rant.

[–] TheCelticPirate 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes, what he said was way out of line and he should apologize like she said. But paying your husband with campaign funds to be your personal security is a little weird, right?

[–] Sanctus 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is why her funding is already being investigated. His comments are completely unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. She's rightly being investigated and she deserves to be criticized for what at best, seems like a conflict of interest for employing her husband, but she should not be subjected to racist attacks. Troy Nehls is just a bigoted piece of garbage looking for an excuse to go on a racist rant to score some easy points with his racist constituents.

[–] 800XL 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Less weird then hiring your 2 sons and your daughter to high ranking gov positions. At least he has an interest in the actual job and isn't there to fleece the taxpayers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey! Ivanka didn’t even get a paycheck though! She loved the US so much that she worked for free! It was a sacrifice!

Never mind the millions she and Jared raked in from foreign governments - she didn’t have a salary!

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ivanka-trump-taking-formal-role-administration/story?id=46454858

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-make-640m-white-house-1724996

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So is hiring your kids and giving them security clearance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was wondering about that.

Did they actually ever get security clearance?

The issue seemed to be that they couldn't (due to clear links to questionable money sources and contacts) and still got all the sensitive info.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A White House whistleblower has said the Trump administration overruled security experts to give questionable security clearances to more than two dozen people, including the president's daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner.

Tricia Newbold, a White House security adviser, told Democrats in Congress that clearances were initially denied to dozens of administration officials because of concerns over possible foreign influence, conflicts of interests, questionable or criminal conduct, financial problems or drug abuse.

She said President Donald Trump's former White House personnel security director, Carl Kline, personally overruled the career officials' judgements in the cases of two senior officials.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1RD2PD/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So there's really no point to the review process considering it can be overridden and it doesn't even take the President himself to do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Bizarre, huh? Just about every day during that nightmare of an administration I'd find myself wondering what the fuck was going on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They didn't need it to profit from their positions.

[–] FuglyDuck 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s hard to imagine he’s providing competent service as a protective agent, though it may be more that he’s simply managing her detail, etc.

It’s usually a bad idea to have friends/intimate relations as body guards. For one thing, any attempted assassination or whatever is going to account for your security detail, which means whoever is going to have a target on their back. It exposes him to increased risks.

For another, if he’s busy being a husband (and presumably a father,), he’s not busy being a body guard.

But he’s probably just managing the staff, meeting them, reviewing their backgrounds etc, making sure their personalities “fit”,

Regardless it’s pretty normal to give families consultant fees all the freaking time.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago