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[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

This isn’t even false equivalency, it’s just blatantly false.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I only see this argument made by conservatives. It is a deliberate attempt to drive a racist and LGBT-phobic wedge between the white working class and the Democratic Party. I have never seen a progressive person demand less support for the rights of minorities.

I also favor raising the minimum wage, making universities free to attend, and having universal healthcare - but LGBT rights aren’t the reason we don’t have those things. The GOP is the reason we don’t have those things, and it’s not like if the Dems said “Fuck it, arrest and kill the gays” that the GOP would suddenly support workers’ rights.

If you want to help the poor, vote out the party that says shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Conservatives, and useful idiots.

The only people I see claiming both sides are the same are people who have interest in either democrats failing as a party, or the whole country failing and collapsing in general.

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[–] madcaesar 78 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You know who posts boTh sIdEs memes? Republicans trying to distract you from the shit they are doing.

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[–] phoneymouse 64 points 10 months ago

The Republican one should also say no with Nazi flags, crucifix, and a gun

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's sad to see this up voted so much right under an article about democrats trying to provide free community college.

[–] nifty 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I feel bad for posting this now because I wasn’t trying to make false equivalencies. Unequivocally, I find that someone identifying as a Democrat politician is more likely to be progressive and humanitarian than one identifying as a Republican politician.

I am not sure the demeanor of the Democratic Party in general has anything to do with intrinsic ideology because many party members used to be against gay marriage in the 90s. It’s a good thing that one party (Democrats) is open to changing itself according to public will, which is what you’d want in a representative democracy.

What this means to me is that you shouldn’t take party demeanors for granted, and keep pushing for the change you want.

Edit: so yeah, if you don’t want four years of conservatives breaking all progressive pillars of society, go out and fucking vote!!

[–] TokenBoomer 3 points 10 months ago

Never feel bad for posting content. Lemmy needs content.

[–] Son_of_dad 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Election time, so of course there's these "both sides" bullshit posts that will try to tell you that Donald Trump is somehow the better choice, cause he at least stares you in the eyes while he fucks you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But not even a dinner first?

😟

👉 👈

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He'll make you pay for it.

[–] this_1_is_mine 4 points 10 months ago

And still not even reach around...

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I take it back, that poor unionist on the right is about to receive a maximum power Biden Blast

[–] Fades 8 points 10 months ago

the only president to ever join the picket lines alongside unionized citizens

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[–] BetaDoggo_ 37 points 10 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Right, we need to be organizing, protesting, and working to destroy the current power structure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

true, but both sides do need to be criticizeable, not just the worse one.

[–] graveyardchickenhunt 29 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with "they're the same, democrats just put on a hat" is dishonest and reductionist. This kind of thing actively causes harm and plays into the hands of the party that's objectively worse for anyone that's not rich.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with "they're the same, democrats just put on a hat" is dishonest and reductionist.

It's really not. My favourite example is Roe v. Wade - how long did democrats have to fix it? How long did they use it in their campaigns in the lines of "if you don't vote democrats, republicans will overturn it"?

Yeah, they're the better choice, for sure, but they're not a good choice.

[–] graveyardchickenhunt 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And your own words show exactly what I mean.

There's a marked difference between lazy fucks who didn't properly bring it across the finish line and people actively working to make things worse. Correct my believe if I'm wrong: unless it's a constitutional amendment, laws are fairly easy to overturn still.

And to 'how many years'.... How many years did people have to vote for progressive candidates in the lower levels to change the actual base of the party to where they want it to be? How many years have the voters not used to make it the party they want it to be?

This kinda shit is so fucking often due to progressives wanting things to be a certain way, but not putting in the legwork because "it's a lost cause anyway". With the democrats you have a chance to change the party into the progressive direction. Take an example from those maga assholes - it doesn't take a lot of them to shift the republicans to be even worse.

[–] Kentifer 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This argument would be fine if the DNC actually let people select progressive candidates. But they almost never do. The DNC is controlled by committee, not by democracy, ironically.

[–] graveyardchickenhunt 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And who do they draw from? The active base. If the complaints are loud enough, broad enough, from inside the party, that's when they will have no choice.

"Oh there's the dnc, can't do anything, move on" is not a productive way to fight these things.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

US citizens need to destroy the first past the post voting system. It's fucked and undemocratic and it needs to be replaced.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that only people who came into power using the current system would have a chance to change the system. And why would anyone want to change the system that brought them to power?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This is broadly true, but it's not completely unheard-of for systems to change despite this.

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[–] Cruxifux 3 points 10 months ago

It’s one of many things that need to be done to fix the US.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Republicans: how about we make it worse.

[–] Fades 12 points 10 months ago

This is fucking dumb as hell, rainbow capitalism is the fucking tip not the whole goddamn iceberg.

This is just another braindead “both sides” meme

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
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